Zaino Z2 Pro

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dlw

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Has anyone tried this yet? Any opinions on how much of an improvent over old Z2? My local distributor is waiting for his new stuff to arrive and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me their experience with the new stuff. I know that Agentf has used it, but I'm more curious about something else. The Zaino website now says that Z2 will also help eliminate swirl marks. I thought that in the past, Zaino was billed as being so optically perfect that it would not do any swirl coverup or eliminating. That was the main reason I switched to VM. I've got 5 cars, all daily drivers, including a black Prelude and just don't always have the time for the PC work, etc needed to constantly eliminate swirls. Besides, I'm ready for a longer lasting product for the long winter ahead on my daily drivers. I've got the new Z2 on order from my local distributor so I will eventually find out about this, but just curious if others have any thoughts
 
I could be wrong, but I've read the product description on their web site and I don't think Zaino claims Z2 PRO helps remove swirl marks . . .
 
If I may, this is a direct quote from the Zaino website:



"Z-2 bonds with the paint pigment and will get "wetter," "deeper and richer" with multiple coats, it will also help eliminate swirl marks."



I've seen some of the Z2 Pro pictures here, as I said, my main question is about the swirl factor. I just put on a coat of the old Z2 I had on hand (my Milano red '99 CRV) - 42 degrees in the garage, so it's gonna sit for a while before removing. I've always been a Z fan, but also own and use Souveran, NXT, TW Ultra Gloss, several Meg's products and most of the VM & related CK products. Just hoping for the new Z2 to help a bit with the swirls. I know that Z5 is supposed to help swirls, but frankly, I find it much harder to apply and remove than Z2 (seems a bit thicker to me).
 
dlw said:
If I may, this is a direct quote from the Zaino website:



"Z-2 bonds with the paint pigment and will get "wetter," "deeper and richer" with multiple coats, it will also help eliminate swirl marks."



I've seen some of the Z2 Pro pictures here, as I said, my main question is about the swirl factor. I just put on a coat of the old Z2 I had on hand (my Milano red '99 CRV) - 42 degrees in the garage, so it's gonna sit for a while before removing. I've always been a Z fan, but also own and use Souveran, NXT, TW Ultra Gloss, several Meg's products and most of the VM & related CK products. Just hoping for the new Z2 to help a bit with the swirls. I know that Z5 is supposed to help swirls, but frankly, I find it much harder to apply and remove than Z2 (seems a bit thicker to me).
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Could you please provide a link to the quote, I've read the product description and other portions of the website and may have overloooked teh comment.



Z2-Pro is the replacement for Z2 and neither are designed to eliminate swirl marks. Z2-Pro offers:



Unbeatable gloss, shine, depth, clarity and reflectivity

Durability and protection that's out of this world

Improved user friendliness

Easy on, easy off, no waiting

No dust or residue to stain your trim

Greater value



dlw said:
... I thought that in the past, Zaino was billed as being so optically perfect that it would not do any swirl coverup or eliminating....
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It also states that, "Z-2 PROâ„¢ is optically perfect and won't negatively impact the look of your vehicle. In fact, Z-2 PROâ„¢ will do something no other product can do - it will show off your paint the way it was meant to be seen. Z-2 PROâ„¢ contains advanced, state-of-the-art optical enhancers and gloss additives that will bring out the true color and clarity of your paint.



I hope this clarifies a few thinks...



David
 
dlw said:
If I may, this is a direct quote from the Zaino website:

"Z-2 bonds with the paint pigment and will get "wetter," "deeper and richer" with multiple coats, it will also help eliminate swirl marks."
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I think you'll find that's a quote about the original formula Z-2 from the "old" website http://www.zainobros.com/files/info.htm#anchor20946



You can read about Z2 PRO here . . .

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=Z-2&Category_Code=Zaino



I personally can't wait to try it but I really don't think Z2 PRO is going to do anything for swirl marks . . .
 
It might have minor fillers in it now. I really don't think it'll make a difference at all. Generally, those of us that use Zaino have already polished out whatever imperfections that can come out, and your average person that uses it with no prep work won't know and/or care.



The old Z2 typically made swirl marks and other scratches a bit more visible, maybe they were just trying to reduce that effect a bit.
 
You are absolutely right, apparently the old website is still totally active. The quote that I got was from the old website which is www.zainobros.com. I had no idea that there was a new website. Strange that the old one is still apparently fully active. I certainly didn't mean to open a can of worms, which the mere mention of Zaino seems to do sometimes. I do not consider myself the person who does'nt know/care. I've been on this forum for some time and am very experienced in most phases of detailing including wet sanding, rotary and orbital machines and have painted a car or two. Many people might remember my son's black Prelude as an example. I was hoping that the new stuff would do some coverup, like I said, I have 5 cars that I maintain, which includes washing and waxing/polishing every week if at all possible, and don't have the time to do the usual "perfect" job all the time. My question has been answered for the time being and I'll just have to decide which product does the most for me. Thank all of you for the info.
 
If you try it, please let us know of your results. I'm curious to see if it contains any fillers (even if very minor amounts) now. Want to know if the look has changed, too.
 
tailwind said:
If you try it, please let us know of your results. I'm curious to see if it contains any fillers (even if very minor amounts) now. Want to know if the look has changed, too.
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I've been testing Z2-Pro for almost a year and using Z2 for the past three years, both are opticall clear and contain no fillers.
 
The new Z2-PRO does have some of the Z5-like hiding ability for very, very, very minor surface imperfections. No, Z2-PRO will not allow any short-cuts that a filler wax or glaze will give you. Z2-PRO "does" seem more resistant from itself being marred by a careful washing.

Z2-PRO: Extremely user friendly, enhanced appearance features (wetness, depth, gloss and reflectivity) and extreme durability of that just waxed appearance. Still requires a meticulous prep for the discriminating detailer.
 
I still have about 2/3 of a bottle of Z-2 and ZFX purchased last January. Is there enough of a difference between Z-2 and Z-2 Pro to justify purchasing Z-2 Pro now? Is there really a noticable visual difference between the two, or is the primary improvement application ease? If color plays a part in the decision, my ride is black bc/cc.
 
ram said:
I still have about 2/3 of a bottle of Z-2 and ZFX purchased last January. Is there enough of a difference between Z-2 and Z-2 Pro to justify purchasing Z-2 Pro now? Is there really a noticable visual difference between the two, or is the primary improvement application ease. If color plays a part in the decision, my ride is black bc/cc.
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I have the same question;)
 
Use up what you've got. Do multiple cars, or apply it more often than you need to if you get antsy. Nothing wrong with the old Z2.



If you don't use it up before you buy the improved formula, you probably never will, and that'll be a waste.
 
There is a significant difference IMO. The real question or dilimma is if the $6-$8 of wasted (unused) Z2 worth the wait. That's a personal decision with no wrong answer. Z2 is excellent but Z2-PRO is just better. :xyxthumbs
 
blkZ28Conv said:
There is a significant difference IMO. The real question or dilimma is if the $6-$8 of wasted (unused) Z2 worth the wait. That's a personal decision with no wrong answer. Z2 is excellent but Z2-PRO is just better. :xyxthumbs
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Thanks,Edwin :xyxthumbs
 
ram said:
I still have about 2/3 of a bottle of Z-2 and ZFX purchased last January. Is there enough of a difference between Z-2 and Z-2 Pro to justify purchasing Z-2 Pro now? Is there really a noticable visual difference between the two, or is the primary improvement application ease? If color plays a part in the decision, my ride is black bc/cc.
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I'll be using my remaining Z2 on wheels and using the Z2 Pro for paint.
 
I have about 10 regulars who request Zaino.......It keeps getting better......I'm definately going to purchase the Z2 pro this week. As previously stated .....'I'll use the older product on wheels too".....There's nothing I've found, that protects them better. :up
 
I was asking the local ( Canadian) distributor if he is stocking the Z2-Pro and he said yes since Sept and the Pro can be told apart from the reg Z2 because it has a white cap on the bottle.



Well .. my *old* Z2 has a white cap ( vintage Aug 03 ) so now I am wondering.



What color is the cap on the bottle of the Z2-Pro that you have recieved?
 
Jesstzn said:
I was asking the local ( Canadian) distributor if he is stocking the Z2-Pro and he said yes since Sept and the Pro can be told apart from the reg Z2 because it has a white cap on the bottle.



Well .. my *old* Z2 has a white cap ( vintage Aug 03 ) so now I am wondering.



What color is the cap on the bottle of the Z2-Pro that you have recieved?
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Only white capped bottles purchased after Sept 2004 are the new Z2-PRO formulation. I too have an old bottle from 02 with the white. Two different formulations and can be easily distinquish by physical and reactive (application) comparison.
 
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