Z8 or Z-cs?
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imported_JoshVette
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I agree with GMBlack, just maintain it with Z6 or Z8 after every wash. But for waxing, use the CS and then Z8 after.
imported_GregCavi
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I tend to apply a coat of CS every couple months, and just Z8 after each wash. I find the ZCS to be very durable and applying 2 months is definitly overkill; however, I do it anyway. 
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imported_memnuts
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I maintain with them all. Z6, Z8 and CS have subtle differences in their appearances.
Z6 -brightens, Z8- adds warmth and depth and CS - adds that dessert-like "POP" (gloss and wetness).
Whenever, I feel one of my vehicles is lacking one of these features, I use the requires product to re-establish the look "I" want.
Z6 -brightens, Z8- adds warmth and depth and CS - adds that dessert-like "POP" (gloss and wetness).
Whenever, I feel one of my vehicles is lacking one of these features, I use the requires product to re-establish the look "I" want.
From my experience, CS adds a more sharper look to the other Z sealants, but after using Z-CS since it's release, I noticed that Z-CS does not bead well compared to the standard Z-2p/ and Z5pro.
I can't tell because I have "multi" layers of the sealants vs. a few coats of Z-CS.
For me to determine that my experience with Z-CS is legit, I plan on detailing my sisters 2006 Accord using straight up Z-CS.
The last detail I did to her car was in Feb 07. All I did was clay, 2x ZFX Z-2pro, and a coat
of Z-CS (in the sun), and my goodness, it lasted thru mostly the summer. Her car barely gets washed using NXT once a month at least, and no QD'ing. I'm surprised it held up long in the Florida weather.
Now, her next detail hopefully this weekend, I'll take photos and post a new thread and update on how well Z-CS stands alone in my test. I'd like to see how well Z-CS stands out by itself since I can't tell.
IMO, I love the beading from Z-2/5p, vs. Z-CS. We'll see....
I can't tell because I have "multi" layers of the sealants vs. a few coats of Z-CS.
For me to determine that my experience with Z-CS is legit, I plan on detailing my sisters 2006 Accord using straight up Z-CS.
The last detail I did to her car was in Feb 07. All I did was clay, 2x ZFX Z-2pro, and a coat
of Z-CS (in the sun), and my goodness, it lasted thru mostly the summer. Her car barely gets washed using NXT once a month at least, and no QD'ing. I'm surprised it held up long in the Florida weather.
Now, her next detail hopefully this weekend, I'll take photos and post a new thread and update on how well Z-CS stands alone in my test. I'd like to see how well Z-CS stands out by itself since I can't tell.
IMO, I love the beading from Z-2/5p, vs. Z-CS. We'll see....
Scottwax said:
Sorry no shots like that Scott. I like ZAIO alot but it has never looked as good as this combo does (ZAIO and 2x of CS)
In this shot from 1 yr ago. I had fully polished the car and applied 3x of Z2pro 5 weeks before the pic.
Then the day of the pic, I did a QEW wash, Z6 and Z8:
Macruz19 said:
I have noticed this as well, however, I find that vehicles sheet water remarkably well, better than Z2/Z5, with CS. Whether the sheeting is caused by CS directly, IDK.
~3 months ago I polished my roof, applied ZAIO, 1 X CS. On my trunk I polisealed and applied Natty Blue. Today, the CS is beading great, not the typical Zaino beading though, great gloss and sheeting. The trunk's beading looks terrible and I need to re-apply something.
All in All, I like CS and have heard that they have revised the formula.
NSXTASY said:
Don't take my word for it, but I spoke to Sal about Z-CS when it was first released, and he told me Z-CS sheets water. I'm not sure if he said Z-7 or Z-CS. Don't quote me on that. :nervous2:
That's why I notice why Z-CS does not bead like the other Z's. Don't get me wrong, but I was blown away the first time I applied Z-CS, and the after results after it rained, but now I'm thinking that Z-CS isn't as great as Z-2/ or Z-5 in terms of looks, and apperance. As I stated, Z-CS makes your existing polish or wax more "sharper".
This is the reason why I want to perform my own test on my sisters Accord using Z-CS as a stand alone.
Cleaning Fool
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In my early tests of CS, I don't see it taking Z2 or Z5 to a whole new level of shine. I mean, how much more gloss do you think you can get over the original Z's..Hard to top these 2 even from the little brother in the family. I think the best way to judge it is to use at as a LSP after a good polish, see how it stacks up.
Immediately after using CS, I never felt that "wow, blow me away" factor that I got with Z8, or even AW for that matter. Using it by itself just did next to nothing on the paint in terms of appearance. Maybe using CS over a Z sealant brings out more appearance qualities, but then that defeats using it as a "standalone" as it's advertised.
As to whether it sheets, that's the first I've heard on that, but maybe you're thinking of Z7. Z7 definitely sheets water off the surface. All of Zaino's paint protectants have always beaded water (almost a Zaino trademark in how well they bead), and I know Sal used to be a big disbeliever in sealant "sheeting", unless that's changed. So, even though I could be wrong, I doubt CS was formulated to sheet. I honestly think some of the bugs should have been worked out before it was released and then updated so soon. Kinda leaves all those with the first batches with a bad taste... I mean it's cool to be the first kid on the block with the newest technology, but not if it can't live up to the tremendous over-hype and normal-exemplery Zaino standard.
As to whether it sheets, that's the first I've heard on that, but maybe you're thinking of Z7. Z7 definitely sheets water off the surface. All of Zaino's paint protectants have always beaded water (almost a Zaino trademark in how well they bead), and I know Sal used to be a big disbeliever in sealant "sheeting", unless that's changed. So, even though I could be wrong, I doubt CS was formulated to sheet. I honestly think some of the bugs should have been worked out before it was released and then updated so soon. Kinda leaves all those with the first batches with a bad taste... I mean it's cool to be the first kid on the block with the newest technology, but not if it can't live up to the tremendous over-hype and normal-exemplery Zaino standard.
^^ The reason Z-CS blew me away because of the ease of use, and it was the first wipe off and walk away product released.
Now, it's been several months and I would be thinking that Z-CS would be my favorite and I thought Z-AIO was an "ok" product, but now, I'm thinking the opposite.
As for Z-8, I like how it gives more depth, but the thing that really got me using Zaino was my first application of Z-2pro. That said it all....
Now, it's been several months and I would be thinking that Z-CS would be my favorite and I thought Z-AIO was an "ok" product, but now, I'm thinking the opposite.
As for Z-8, I like how it gives more depth, but the thing that really got me using Zaino was my first application of Z-2pro. That said it all....
Macruz19 said:
Oh, I wholeheartedly agree on that one! It's incredibly easy to use, no doubt, and that set a new standard for sure.
Well, I guess it's like nearly any product in life. But, take a new car for instance. You buy a car and it turns out to be a lemon, how do you feel about that car? Would you buy another one the exact model? If the manufacturer said it's all new and improved with more features over last year's lemon, would that stimulate you to buy the car again? Highly doubt it. That scenario could be applied to almost any product class and industry I guess...food, electronics, clothing, you name it. I guess what makes the difference to most people is if the cost is low enough and worth it to them to buy again.