your thoughts on Claybars?

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Alexshimshimhae

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was looking through the reviews--and noticed one guy was ecstatic about

Meguiars C2100 Detailing Clay (Agressive).



What are your thoughts? I mean I'm currently using mothers--but reading his review--I'm thinking 'wouldn't something that good potentially do more damage than help?"
 
Alexshimshimhae said:
was looking through the reviews--and noticed one guy was ecstatic about

Meguiars C2100 Detailing Clay (Agressive).



What are your thoughts? I mean I'm currently using mothers--but reading his review--I'm thinking 'wouldn't something that good potentially do more damage than help?"
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I avoid aggressive clays unless I really need them. Too much marring from 'em and whatever marring is there to begin with is usually plenty for me.



If you're happy with Mother's, you might try ClayMagic Blue, but otherwise don't rush to fix what isn't broken ;) If you have some really nasty situation where your regular clay won't cut it, then that'd be different.
 
I have used both clay magic and mothers, and greatly prefer the mothers clay. Its a bit more aggressive, without undue marring in my opinion, and is easier to work with.
 
Accumulator said:
I avoid aggressive clays unless I really need them. Too much marring from 'em and whatever marring is there to begin with is usually plenty for me.



If you're happy with Mother's, you might try ClayMagic Blue, but otherwise don't rush to fix what isn't broken ;) If you have some really nasty situation where your regular clay won't cut it, then that'd be different.
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I 100% agree
 
I heard recently that all clay's are manufactured in the same factory and will be untill the patent runs out in about 18 months time? Not sure if it's well known or just hearsay but if it's true would it suggest that there's no difference between brands other than packaging and colour?
 
mmmm well even if that were the case--i'm sure each company adds or changes the make-up of hte product (i would think the inventing company would just make the base clay)
 
Final Touch said:
I heard recently that all clay's are manufactured in the same factory and will be untill the patent runs out in about 18 months time? Not sure if it's well known or just hearsay but if it's true would it suggest that there's no difference between brands other than packaging and colour?
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Alexshimshimhae said:
mmmm well even if that were the case--i'm sure each company adds or changes the make-up of hte product (i would think the inventing company would just make the base clay)
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While there are only a few sources for clay (and limitations on what's imported into the US), the various vendors *do* specify certain characteristics and the clay is "made to order" for them according to those specs. I discussed this at length with David B when he was tweaking the Sonus Gray "Block" clay thorugh several different versions (which were all dramatically different).

craigdt said:
I have used both clay magic and mothers, and greatly prefer the mothers clay. Its a bit more aggressive, without undue marring in my opinion, and is easier to work with.
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That's interesting! I've only used the Mother's a few times (never used the Clay Magic), and I found it absolutely indistinguishable from Griot's, and pretty gentle. I'm surprised it was more aggressive than the ClayMagic, and can't help but wonder if they've changed it :think:
 
Accumulator said:
That's interesting! I've only used the Mother's a few times (never used the Clay Magic), and I found it absolutely indistinguishable from Griot's, and pretty gentle. I'm surprised it was more aggressive than the ClayMagic, and can't help but wonder if they've changed it :think:
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Hmm. When was the last time you have used any? Its been the same, as far as I can tell for the last 3 or so years. The ClayMagic, to me, is very very similar to the Sonus green.
 
I dont think Sonus green and Clay Magic blue are similar at all. Id say Sonus green, Pinnacle Poly, and Mothers yellow are similar. CM blue being slightly more aggressive.
 
D&D Auto Detail said:
Id say Sonus green, Pinnacle Poly, and Mothers yellow are similar.
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The Pinnacle clay is a VERY mild clay, much more so the mothers. I never used Sonus so I cant compare to that.
 
I really don't like Clay Magic blue claybars. It always leaves marring behind even using it with ONR as a lube. I think it is much too aggressive. I might try Mothers next time.
 
I used the Meguiar's Clay bar kit and it comes with the gray clay bar, which i assume it's the least aggressive one. It's only IS at SOME POINT. It does induce marring even when it's saturated with QD. I believe Mother's clay bar should be more aggressive than the Meguiar's. So far, I've heard is the Sonus Green clay bar is to be the softest.
 
craigdt said:
When was the last time you have used any [Mother's]? Its been the same, as far as I can tell for the last 3 or so years. The ClayMagic, to me, is very very similar to the Sonus green.
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I bought it maybe 3-4 years ago IIRC. I think I'm still using it (see below) now and then but newer stocks might be different since people seem to think it's more aggressive than IME.



D&D Auto Detail said:
Id say Sonus green, Pinnacle Poly, and Mothers yellow are similar..
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IME (and again, I dunno if the Mother's has changed), the Mother's/Griot's are much milder than the Sonus green. I actually reach for Griot's (or is it Mothers? Put the Mother's in a Griot's jar the last time and I can't tell 'em apart :confused: ) when the Sonus green is too mild and I don't want to use my remaining SmartClay.



GS4_Fiend said:
I've heard is the Sonus Green clay bar is to be the softest...
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IMO it's so gentle that it's really only good for "cleaing the LSP" and too mild for truly decontaminating the actual paint. That's not inteneded as a slam, I use the Sonus green more than any other clay.
 
hmm maybe I'll stick with mothers then since it's easiest to get a hold of? I mean then again--I figured if i have to claybar, I'd be planning to seal and/or put a coat of lsp anyways?...or do you think the marring would get to a point where it's just that bad?
 
Alexshimshimhae said:
hmm maybe I'll stick with mothers then since it's easiest to get a hold of? I mean then again--I figured if i have to claybar, I'd be planning to seal and/or put a coat of lsp anyways?...or do you think the marring would get to a point where it's just that bad?
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It *can* get quite severe, but usually not with mild clays like that unless you do something wrong (or the paint is really soft).



I myself use the Sonus green, just "claying stuff off my LSP" and I virtually never have to re-LSP after doing that. It's *VERY* rare for contamination to get so severe that I have to do a "regular" claying, but maybe that's more a function of my LSPs as I usually only do it on the S8 and that car's UPP seems very vulnerable to contamination :nixweiss
 
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