Yellow LC Cutting Pad

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machboy

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Greetings- I searched for the answer before posting this. Couldn't find it.



I've been trying to remove defects from my paint with an orange LC pad on my PC for a while using many different techniques and it isn't working so i ordered the Yellow cutting pad.



My question is on the pad it says in bold type "DO NOT USE ON NEW OR LIKE NEW PAINT"

This threw me a bit. Is there something about this pad that will hurt my paint? Or is it just a warning saying that i -might- cause some hazing which will need another step afterwards?



thanks in advance.



scott
 
machboy said:
Greetings- I searched for the answer before posting this. Couldn't find it.

I've been trying to remove defects from my paint with an orange LC pad on my PC for a while using many different techniques and it isn't working so i ordered the Yellow cutting pad.

My question is on the pad it says in bold type "DO NOT USE ON NEW OR LIKE NEW PAINT"

This threw me a bit. Is there something about this pad that will hurt my paint? Or is it just a warning saying that i -might- cause some hazing which will need another step afterwards?

thanks in advance.

scott
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Scott, what brand of pad did you go with?

It won't hurt your paint it will just help the cutting action a little. I would actually gues that is might be the products you are using or that you are expecting too much from a bad defect. What products are you using and what are the defects like?
 
Danase- For products i'm using #83 and i also have tried Mother PP, For pads i'm using the Wolfgang pads from Autogeek...made by Lake County. The defects are a series of swirls,hazing,waterspots and scratches. Whoever owned this car before me really f'd up.



I thought that with a stronger bite pad i would be able to get most of it out.
 
machboy said:
Danase- For products i'm using #83 and i also have tried Mother PP, For pads i'm using the Wolfgang pads from Autogeek...made by Lake County. The defects are a series of swirls,hazing,waterspots and scratches. Whoever owned this car before me really f'd up.

I thought that with a stronger bite pad i would be able to get most of it out.
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Try that pad and then go over it again with a white pad and see how that comes out for you.
 
Have you removed defects before with your PC? Is this car your first time doing that, or is it just the first time you have had a problem doing that?
 
The Yellow LC foam is actually more agressive than it feels because the foam is flexible. Due to how porous this yellow foam it is, it is more aggressive than most other company's cutting pads. This is okay. BTW, their orange foam is basically worthless IMO, and it breaks down and looses is resialance too quickly. Danase has it right - Yellow then white.
 
The warning is just because the yellow will likely install some hazing into the finish. Follow up with a light polish/polishing bad to remove it and you'll be fine.



What kinda car are you working on?
 
Setec Astronomy - Well... this is by far the worst type of defects i've tried to remove. I've had success with the DAS Pads on light swirls. Even the LC Orange removed some light swirls on my car but really didn't do much for anything other than -light swirling-. I am a novice with the PC if that is what you are asking. I've pretty much tried to mimic what i've learned here about PC usage and watched the Meg instructional video a few times.





Thanks guys for all the help. I actually meant to take my camera to work today to grab some pics of the problem but alas i forgot.



RAG - So then i'm golden to use the Yellow? I agree about the orange.



Neothin - I am working on a 2003 Torch Red Ford Mach 1. The CC seems to be fairly hard. (side note: just noticed you were from FL. Enjoying this cool weather?)
 
machboy said:
Greetings- I searched for the answer before posting this. Couldn't find it.



I've been trying to remove defects from my paint with an orange LC pad on my PC for a while using many different techniques and it isn't working so i ordered the Yellow cutting pad.



My question is on the pad it says in bold type "DO NOT USE ON NEW OR LIKE NEW PAINT"

This threw me a bit. Is there something about this pad that will hurt my paint? Or is it just a warning saying that i -might- cause some hazing which will need another step afterwards?



thanks in advance.



scott
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im not sure how much time you plan on spending polishing out the defects but my personal experience with LC yellow with OCP/OCC via PC was that anything past light swirling is going to be a pain to get out. anything past light swirling i use a megs cutting pad. seems to work much better for me anyways. Althoguh i know Opt products take a while to breakdown. I have some menzerna polishes to try out once the weather breaks....also get to try out my new makita!!! :)



personally if the yellow doesnt do it for you, you might want to try the megs cutting pad.........good luck!!!
 
How fast are you actually moving the PC? 1/2-1" per second is about as fast as your going to want to move the machine when polishing. Also, are you using larger pads or the smaller 4" ones? I've found it difficult to remove defects when using larger pads. You could possibly go so far as to order a set of smaller 4" pads and a backing plate for them. Optimum takes a really long time to break down. It's one of those polishes that you don't rush. your going to have to make a few passes before it does its job.



I'm liking this nice weather! Too bad its going to be fricking cold all weekend!
 
machboy said:
Setec Astronomy - Well... this is by far the worst type of defects i've tried to remove. I've had success with the DAS Pads on light swirls. Even the LC Orange removed some light swirls on my car but really didn't do much for anything other than -light swirling-. I am a novice with the PC if that is what you are asking. I've pretty much tried to mimic what i've learned here about PC usage and watched the Meg instructional video a few times.
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Hard to define scratches and swirls without seeing what you are up against. When I first started with the PC, I expected it to be a simpler process to remove defects...this pad, this product, run it over the area...presto! No improvement! If you've really got scratches they may be tough to get out; can you feel them with your fingernail? If so, you may not be able to remove them all the way.



As far as the swirling, maybe I am telling you something you already know, but I didn't really get any effectiveness out of the PC until I learned to use some (a lot of?) pressure with it (and the smaller pads mentioned I'm sure would help, also). I have a yellow CMA pad which I guess is a LC; I never got any hazing with it, but then I always used it on a pretty ratty surface to begin with. Bottom line, as others have said, is it will likely take more time and more work (pressure) than you thought it was going to.
 
Neothin - i'm moving it about that speed. I have not however been doing it in 2x2 areas more like 4x4 so maybe that it hindering me. And i'm not using OP i'm using DACP #83.

And yes i'm using the 6.5 inch pads. I'll have to order some 4".

High of 64 for us tomorrow! lol. going to be tuff detailing the car in such COLD weather.





Setec Astronomy - i'll get pics online. Some of the scratches i can feel some i can't. I know i can't really remove the ones i feel. I apply enough pressure to where the machine bogs then i back it off a bit. My hood usually takes me about 45min to cover completly. Maybe that's too fast. I'm going to try the Yellow LC pad and DACP tomorrow and see how it works.



Maybe DACP isn't what i should be using? I've got some Mother's Power Polish as well. Could always give that a shot.



you guys really rock for helping so much. Just when you think you have a firm grasp on detailing wham, there is something else to learn. cheers to you though!

I will get some pics online i promise.
 
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