Wool pad questions?

Changeling

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1. I have some 6 inch wool pads from AG that are "Concours-Series #77-216", prewashed white Lambswool Knitted, Velcro backed.



Question: Will these work OK on a Meguiar's 5 inch "rotary" backing plate? Would this pad be addressed as cutting or polish type wool pad?





2. I also have some EDGE Classic series wool pads "Single sided" which have a flexable backing with Velcro, this is a 6.5 inch backing with another 1/2 inch curved up lip of the same type backing material.



Question: Will these work correctly on the 5 inch Meguiar's backing plate or should a bigger BP be used?



Changeling
 
I guess you could get by with a 5" backing plate, but a 6" would work a lot better as I don't think you're gonna like having all that extra flop or overhang.



Despite the manufactures' attempts to advertise otherwise, no wool pad should ever be associated with the word "polish." Wool is for heavy cutting only. With that said the lambswool pads are slightly less aggressive than the twisted wool variety.
 
Something you should know about wool pads is they cut much faster then foam . I would strongly suggest you test the wool pads and the product you intend to use them with on a test panel .:buffing:
 
Coupe said:
Ive been interested in Edge light cut wool pad, im wondering how aggresive it really is.



I find the wool color codes to be one step above the same color in foam . Another words a blue wool pad would be like a green foam pad . Of course the product you use will determine how the pads cut . Wool cuts much faster than foam, also its messier in that the wool fuzz gets all over . :buffing:
 
Great score on the LC pre washed lambswool pads. I will have to pick up some of those myself.



Wool pads are great to learn on and with the right product they should glide with ease
 
rydawg said:
Great score on the LC pre washed lambswool pads. I will have to pick up some of those myself.



Wool pads are great to learn on and with the right product they should glide with ease



Thanks rydawg, David Feramoni has been giving me advise on the Rotary (If it ever comes in) and pad stuff so I know I want to "learn the wool" way because of the speed and great control it offers over foam pads.



A friend of mine (the young car painter) lets me use his Makita (wool pad) on a scrap fender with his direction (actually he is not to good). I found it to be a hell of a lot smoother than the foam pad I used on a farm tractor, you just have to remember the basics like don't stop! Though, I did stop to see what exactly happened, LOL.

I used the 3M compound that Accumulator told me about and it worked really great !



I just need more information on backing plate relative to pad size. I believe (think) it makes a difference when you are using foam vs wool.

For instance, I have a 5 inch Backing P, that will work great with foam up to 6.5 inches.

However the wool pads are so "floppy" I am sort of at a loss as to what is right or wrong due to basically, realistically, no experience with wool !

Also, the Edge single sided wool pads are definitely different than the Auto G wool pads in construction and layout. The AG ones are sheepskin with a Velcro backing, Edge single edge pads have a semi rigid backing that also incorporates the Velcro (high Quality pads though).

Long story short, Backing plates will have to be different (In my mind) if you are using Edge vs AG type wool pads, but what!

Sorry to ramble, Change.
 
No backing plates when using the double-sided pads from Presta! While it initally seemed like a bit of an inconenience with the adapter and all, I think it's actually a decent solution.
 
Coupe, I think you need both blue and green.



I ordered a yellow today...somebody is bringing me a "surprise" car this weekend :(
 
I want to get to the point where i can do a full paint correction using primarily optimum polish and a choice of 3 pads. So with a blue foam edge/presta, blue foam wool edge/presta and edge/presta green wool i would be set to tackle most jobs?
 
tom p. said:
No backing plates when using the double-sided pads from Presta! While it initally seemed like a bit of an inconenience with the adapter and all, I think it's actually a decent solution.





Thats one of the major reasons i switched to edge/presta, i now hate BP's :xyxthumbs
 
Coupe, I dunno, I have to be honest. I'm not familiar with the foam/wool pads. Frankly, I don't like foam with the hi-speed rotary...it gets too hot.



FWIW, it's my perception that the Presta pads and polishes are a coordinated "system" with the polishes being color-coded to the pads.



I've got foam coming out my ears...both rotary and for the PC. I don't need or want more foam. I'll sink my $$$ into wool.



Baaaaaahhhh (sorry :D )
 
I dont think we are on the same page.



Presta pads are Edge pads right? Presta just puts their name on them right? There for are we talkin about the same pads?



From what it sounds like i would be set with:



(2000 system/adapter)

Blue Edge FOAM

Blue Edge WOOL

Green Edge WOOL



Since Optimum polish is pad specific i wont need much more than OP for corrective work. I mean most of us watched Anthony Orosco wetsand and totaly finish out a bumper on a porsche with nothin more than OP. With those 3 pads and OP im thinkin i would be set for most if not all paint correction i do.
 
Coupe said:
I dont think we are on the same page.



That's entirely possible! :)



Presta pads are Edge pads right? Presta just puts their name on them right? There for are we talkin about the same pads?



Yes, the Presta pads are made by EDGE.



From what it sounds like i would be set with:



(2000 system/adapter)

Blue Edge FOAM

Blue Edge WOOL

Green Edge WOOL



Since Optimum polish is pad specific i wont need much more than OP for corrective work. I mean most of us watched Anthony Orosco wetsand and totaly finish out a bumper on a porsche with nothin more than OP. With those 3 pads and OP im thinkin i would be set for most if not all paint correction i do.



I think there are some double-sided pads (wool on one side, foam on the other) and thought you were referring to that. My Presta pads are double-sided, sheep on both sides :)



I have not used OP with my Presta pads. I've certainly used OP with foam pads on the rotary...it wasn't getting the job done for me.



I guess you'll use the Blue EDGE foam as your final step (on the rotary??)?? Maybe I'm not clear on this.
 
Yes on the rotary, i havent touched my PC since i got my rotary and have been correcting and finishing out with edge/presta blue foam.



This is the extent of what i can do with nothing more than makitta rotary, (2000 system/adapter) edge/presta blue 6", OHC and OP:



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Couldnt imagine what i could accomplish with wool.
 
Just to help clear a few things up, Presta pads ( both wool and foam) are made by Edge. As for Presta products ( Cleaners/Polish/Wax) yes you match the color on the product bottle to the color of the pad your using .

What I find from using Edge wool and foam pads is wool tends to be one step above foam . Another words blue wool cuts a little more than blue foam almost to the point of green foam ( confused yet ? ) Keep in mind wool pads cut faster than foam pads. :buffing:
 
Rollman said:
Just to help clear a few things up, Presta pads ( both wool and foam) are made by Edge. As for Presta products ( Cleaners/Polish/Wax) yes you match the color on the product bottle to the color of the pad your using .

What I find from using Edge wool and foam pads is wool tends to be one step above foam . Another words blue wool cuts a little more than blue foam almost to the point of green foam ( confused yet ? ) Keep in mind wool pads cut faster than foam pads. :buffing:



So if i buy a wool polishing pad its basicly like a light cut foam? Light cut wool would be like a medium cut foam and so on and so on?
 
Coupe, I'll tie off my commentary by saying that this is the same question/concern I expressed last week. I asked if I could finish with the rotary and skip the PC. Both David and Ryan basically said don't toss the PC. Both suggested the need to finish with a foam pad on the PC for the ulimate shine. I thought you were participating in that conversation.
 
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