Winter abuse test

[Alexshimshimhae]

So it's more or less halfway through winter and I'm curious to see which products had lasted thus far and which has but the...uh..salt?



Please list the product, the conditions it's subject to and any other pertinent info like application etc...

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

915



Feeding rain today but nyc has had a good amount of snow this year--which equates to ample amounts of salt.



This car is left out for 9+ hours a day and garaged at night. Must of the driving is on highway

I applied the 915 back in I think august. So far I must say the beading is impressive

 

[Accumulator]

I'm using the same stuff I always do on the vehicles we drive in the winter, though I switched the Yukon XLD to FK1000P (from 476S) the last time I redid it and I sold the KSGed MPV.



No problems getting through the Ohio winter with Collinite 476S, layered KSG or FK1000P (so far, the Tahoe's doing fine with only one coat of the latter). Usually no problems getting through with Collinite 845 but it inexplicably lasts longer on some paints than on others. I usually redo the A8's #16 sometime mid-winter.



Looks like the 915 is holding up just fine for you.

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

No problems getting through the Ohio winter with Collinite 476S, layered KSG or FK1000P (so far, the Tahoe's doing fine with only one coat of the latter). Usually no problems getting through with Collinite 845 but it inexplicably lasts longer on some paints than on others. I usually redo the A8's #16 sometime mid-winter.



Looks like the 915 is holding up just fine for you.

I'm looking into buying a thing of fk1000p for this spring as I hear the shedding ability is better than the collinite line. It may just be my eyes, but it seems the collinites seem to make the cars seem...brighter.



still caught up over which AIO I want to go with but thinking if I use KSG for client cars maybe kaio will be worth a go.



BTW I think it was a conversation with you I had regarding staining of 915...I would be careful especially around the fabric-like lining of most sunroofs--I don't remember if it was a pain on other trim...but I tried my best not to take chances after seeing the sunroof blotch...







476

In terms of the 476, I think my BMW is going to be the ultimate test seeing as how my sister severely abused the life out of this car, and after the first blizzard a plow truck dowsed the car in what I'll call winter soup...(combo of road grease/tar/pebbles/just..road muck and ample amounts of salt) as it plowed through the streets...the whole car is currently some kind of charcoal grey color...(it's supposed to be white) not quite sure how she even stands to open her door (she's semi germaphobic)

 

[imported_Detailing Technology]

Buy FK1000p, no question. In this part of the country, it works through all 4 seasons as a sealant is supposed to.



I have Blackfire Wet Diamond on one car for about a month now, but cant comment as its way too soon. Looked great when I applied it, but now the car is corroded from the snow. Will be a while before I clean it again so its a good test.



G-Techniq - I had it on another car since summer/fall. Car looks after a wash, but doesnt bead any more. It sits outside F/T now. I likely wont use it again.



OCW and Opti-Seal - Both are great and "fun" products. But I get no durability from them.

 

[Leadfootluke]

My 476 is still going strong after a few months, and it was applied to an improperly prepared surface. Next time I heat the garage I will refresh it, but it has done great in this Michigan winter.

 

[imported_Ivan Rajic]

Accumulator,



Of the 4 (Collinite 915, 476, 845 and FK1000P) which would you say is the most durable, best to purchase, etc. I'm looking into getting the FK1000P and probably 845 but it seems all the Collinite waxes have same reviews, followers, durability, etc.



Oh and Alex I just noticed your signature... HILARIOUS!

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

I'm half expecting someone to chime in with something like "pfft you mere mortals are still waxing? HA~ you peasants keep up with that...I have my Opti-coat"



lol

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

Of the 4 (Collinite 915, 476, 845 and FK1000P) which would you say is the most durable, best to purchase, etc. I'm looking into getting the FK1000P and probably 845 but it seems all the Collinite waxes have same reviews, followers, durability, etc.



Oh and Alex I just noticed your signature... HILARIOUS!

lol =] enough time here will make it easy to understand why Accumulator would be better than any Dos equis/chuck norris choke ever made =] just doing my part; after all he's done to help this community =]



afaik the differences seem to be the following:

845 the easiest by far of all the collinites to use--it's pretty fool proof as long as you remember to warm and shake the bottle until the consistency is the way it should be (it should be like a wall paint, not paste-like)



476 seems to be the heavier/heaviest duty of them all but also the most finicky if you can manage to double coat this a week apart it's fairly bullet proof. Accum likes to put 845 down and then 476 on top to mitigate the issues that are common with 476 application.STAINS TRIM



915 seems to be smoother in terms of application if only marginally. It seems to be less pita on trim, but still worthy of sufficient caution. it doesn't seem to be as BRIGHT as 476 which seems to leave my bmw looking almost glow in the dark sometimes. so far the 476 and 915 seem to be neck and neck in terms of durability--though I think 915 seems to be a bit less finicky with different types of paints...but that could just be a figment of my imagination

 

[imported_Ivan Rajic]

^^ Trust me I've been here long enough to know who Accum is and what he does. Easily one of the most knowledgeable people on here.



Thanks for the summary on each. How does FK1000P compare to the Collinites (if you've tried it)?

 

[Leadfootluke]

From Collinite's website. I have personally found 476 to have more of a sealant look, with more shine than the warmer looking 915. I have used 476 for my winter protection, but I would not doubt 915s durability. I would weigh 915 vs 476 in terms of looks, not duration of protection.

In terms of durability, the 476s lasts an average of one month longer than the 915.

The 915 has more carnauba wax in the formula, and its finishing result is a warmer shine, and it is slightly easier to work with.



The 476s is the most durable product offered by Collinite, which is why it requires a little more rubbing and elbow grease.

As far as 476 and 845, 845 is a million times easier to work with, and very durable. I haven't completely compared the durability of the two against each other, especially since I refresh the 845 whenever I can due to the ease of use. I heat up the 845, put it in a spray bottle and mist the applicator with it. No worrying about spills or using too much product that way.

The 845 and 476s are made with the same ingredients, but the 476s lasts longer due to the fact that it has a higher concentration of natural and synthetic waxes. This is why the 476s is tougher to work with. The 845 has been Collinite’s overall best seller for 20 years due to the fact that it has excellent durability combined with an ease of use.

I have *not* used FK1000P, but I feel you cannot go wrong with Collinite.

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

Thanks for the summary on each. How does FK1000P compare to the Collinites (if you've tried it)?

I only THINK I've used it waaaay back when I used to work for a detailer--and if that product was in fact fk1000p (from the pictures the container looks similar to the container we used) it's a bit ridiculous how hydrophobic that product was...testy in terms of application though..but if it rains...and you stop at a light or stop sign...I hope your windshield wipers are running cause w.e. is on your roof is flooding your windshields..



if it isn't; well..the power of marketing--enough people here swear by it and this stuffs been out forever so I definitely plan to pick up a jar for the spring (of which i'll definitely do a write up...and i mean..it's cheap) and I'll probably do a direct comparison between 915 476 and 1000p though the hi-temp waxes also pique my interests, i think 1000p may give us the best bang...but then again i'm nowhere near as knowledgeable as the other guys here so it's just speculation for me...

 

[RaskyR1]

I'm half expecting someone to chime in with something like "pfft you mere mortals are still waxing? HA~ you peasants keep up with that...I have my Opti-coat"



lol

pfft! I have Opti-Coat/CQuartz on my rides, you mere mortals are still waxing?

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

From Collinite's website. I have personally found 476 to have more of a sealant look, with more shine than the warmer looking 915. I have used 476 for my winter protection, but I would not doubt 915s durability. I would weigh 915 vs 476 in terms of looks, not duration of protection.

I really think that's a fair assessment. 915 just seems to be marginally easier to work with and it isn't as blinding as 915 is--i think 476 will be my go-to for white cars only because...well it's so hard to see difference in light cars especially in white...the 476 seems to make it glow almost radioactive lol

As far as 476 and 845, 845 is a million times easier to work with, and very durable. I haven't completely compared the durability of the two against each other, especially since I refresh the 845 whenever I can due to the ease of use. I heat up the 845, put it in a spray bottle and mist the applicator with it. No worrying about spills or using too much product that way.

another very fair assessment--and I'm glad someone else mentioned the spray bottle technique--I'm currently trying to figure out a good place to find a good quality pump sprayer that I can put on the 845 bottle, or a new ergonomic container entirely without paying ridiculous prices like usplastics charge (their delivery methods are crazy i think)

 

[Leadfootluke]

I really think that's a fair assessment. 915 just seems to be marginally easier to work with and it isn't as blinding as 915 is--i think 476 will be my go-to for white cars only because...well it's so hard to see difference in light cars especially in white...the 476 seems to make it glow almost radioactive lol



another very fair assessment--and I'm glad someone else mentioned the spray bottle technique--I'm currently trying to figure out a good place to find a good quality pump sprayer that I can put on the 845 bottle, or a new ergonomic container entirely without paying ridiculous prices like usplastics charge (their delivery methods are crazy i think)

I started with this http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing-product-discussion/128965-collinite-spray-wax.html



And Autogeek sent me this for the idea.

I love it this way now, and this sprayer work perfect to create a fine mist. I bought a ton of bottles from Usplastics to save on shipping, I know what you're saying.

Overall I wish I had FK1000P to test against the Collinite Waxes I have, sorry I can't really contribute more to this thread

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

I started with this http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing-product-discussion/128965-collinite-spray-wax.html



And Autogeek sent me this for the idea.

I love it this way now, and this sprayer work perfect to create a fine mist. I bought a ton of bottles from Usplastics to save on shipping, I know what you're saying.

Overall I wish I had FK1000P to test against the Collinite Waxes I have, sorry I can't really contribute more to this thread

oh man~!! you were the guy who posted that~!! lol~! that was brilliant what you did~!

and yea.. I was thinking if i order anything from usplastics i'd have to buy in bulk in order to make up for hte costs, but don't they tack on shipping per bottle? or per item or something crazy like that? I think I got annoyed because the shipping ended up costing more than the items did...

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

pfft! I have Opti-Coat/CQuartz on my rides, you mere mortals are still waxing?

haha rasky...question...I been looking and haven't been able to find methods of getting my hands on opti-coat or cquarts...or that other one...I was wondering if you could enlighten me?

 

[RaskyR1]

haha rasky...question...I been looking and haven't been able to find methods of getting my hands on opti-coat or cquarts...or that other one...I was wondering if you could enlighten me?

CQuartz can be purchased at AutoAesthetica

OC can be purchased directly from Optimum, but will be the hardest one to obtain.

GTechniq C1 can be purchased at Pakshak. GTechniq/Pakshak will also require you to sign a waiver form.

 

[Alexshimshimhae]

CQuartz can be purchased at AutoAesthetica

OC can be purchased directly from Optimum, but will be the hardest one to obtain.

GTechniq C1 can be purchased at Pakshak. GTechniq/Pakshak will also require you to sign a waiver form.

cool thanks! hmm i don't recall seeing and ordering option on the optimum site...do you have to call them or something?

 

[RaskyR1]

cool thanks! hmm i don't recall seeing and ordering option on the optimum site...do you have to call them or something?

Yes. You'll have to sign a waiver form as well as provide business info. CQuartz was the easiest to buy and they actually just had another group buy happen. Mike at AutoAesthetica was great to work with. My GTechniq C1 should arrive this week and the ordering process was pretty straight forward. Ranney was also great to work with and was very quick processing my order.