Why use FK's FX-100 instead of 185?

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I have yet to use either of these products, but after reading more about the two sealants from Finish Kare's site, what's the advantage of using FX-100 instead of 185? Besides the obvious difference of FX-100 being in sprayable form, it seems that 185 is at least as good or, in fact, trumps 100 in most areas, including cleaning ability, glossiness, and protection. This is just based off FK's own rating from their site. Who knows if this is how it pans out in the "real world," which is partly why I'm asking.



Is it mostly a result of FX-100's apparent greater ease of use because it's a spray? I know there's been much discussion already about FX-100 and how many people have been pleased with it. I just don't think I've read nearly as much about 185.



Just curious...



thanks
 
185 is a one step, FX-100 is a post-LSP sealant booster. Use 185 topped with FX-100.



FK1's 'gloss' ratings are bit misleading. They interpret glossiness as we interpret shine/reflectivity. Yes, Gloss 10 means that the product has a bright, sealant-like shine, but Gloss 6 or 8 doesn't mean that another product has 'less', but a warmer, more carnauba-like appearance.
 
Bence said:
185 is a one step, FX-100 is a post-LSP sealant booster. Use 185 topped with FX-100.



FK1's 'gloss' ratings are bit misleading. They interpret glossiness as we interpret shine/reflectivity. Yes, Gloss 10 means that the product has a bright, sealant-like shine, but Gloss 6 or 8 doesn't mean that another product has 'less', but a warmer, more carnauba-like appearance.
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As per usual, Bence speaks the truth!! I've used FX-100 before & after layers of wax & sealants. It makes a noticeable difference. FX-100 just "melts" right into the paint. For my needs, I prefer it over 185.
 
Since 185 is so liquidy, I popped the squirt top and replaced it with a spray top, then applied it like FX-100 - only problem is I end up wiping it on, in and off without letting it haze (like I do with FX-100) so I think I defeat it's purpose. http://www.fk1usa.com/products-consumer.htm#fx100 I'll try it again, but with more discipline and patience next time. Anybody else try it as a spray?
 
Let me ask this, I have a layer of nattys blue on the Audi. I put the FX-100 on over it, you are saying it will bond with the carnuba. After I apply the FX-100 can I then go back to a sealant suck as trigger or UPP?
 
I've never used UPP or Trigger but my answer would be yes, because FX-100 bonds well to carnaubas. It contains organic & inorganic waxes (don't know specifically) AND sealant - meaning that a pure sealant will bond to it; more so than it would to a pure carnauba.



I think it is worth to try.
 
Bence said:
I've never used UPP or Trigger but my answer would be yes, because FX-100 bonds well to carnaubas. It contains organic & inorganic waxes (don't know specifically) AND sealant - meaning that a pure sealant will bond to it; more so than it would to a pure carnauba.



I think it is worth to try.
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I think just the fact that it allows you to go back to a sealant after using a nuba its worth it in my book even if it gives no look at all, just the fact that you dont have to strip everything.
 
So FX-100 should not be a problem over 845, right? I like "warmer" look as Bence described but I would like to try adding some reflection :)
 
Trigger over FX100/Carbauba? hmmm....

I'm not so sure about that. But definitely worth a try.

I guess a dark colored car would be the best testing ground.



I would think you would have to have sealed up the Carnauaba wax

pretty well with FX100 before you could use an acrylic sealant like Trigger.

And who knows if the carnauaba loses its punch once a sealant goes on!



A carnauba will eventually deterioate in the elements after a month so in effect you are

sealing something that's no longer useful.
 
racingbeat said:
Trigger over FX100/Carbauba? hmmm....

I'm not so sure about that. But definitely worth a try.

I guess a dark colored car would be the best testing ground.



I would think you would have to have sealed up the Carnauaba wax

pretty well with FX100 before you could use an acrylic sealant like Trigger.

And who knows if the carnauaba loses its punch once a sealant goes on!



A carnauba will eventually deterioate in the elements after a month so in effect you are

sealing something that's no longer useful.
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:hifive: Just wanna pop a quick qns,



I thought Carnaubas don't really allow anything else to bond other than its own kind?



So if I'm to put FX100 over, won't it not bond / cure well?
 
that's the $65,000 question for FK's chemical engineers.



How'd they do that?



FX100 is the only sealing/glaze type product I'm aware of (feel free to interject if you know of others) that works well over Nuba and sealant.



as far as sealing over a wax, I stick to Carnauba blends vs, pure Nuba going under FX100. I believe the layering will work better since its visible for a longer period. With FX100 it should last allot longer.

(if you don't wash or clay so much between layers)
 
Well, along with a gallon of 425 (still love this stuff!) I ordered a bottle of FX100. Looking forward to trying it out.
 
if what I read is correct then carnauba can be thought of as a natural linking polymer-depending on the synthetic polymer used it may/may not bond correctly.
 
jsatek said:
Does everyone make the same order form Finish Kare?

1 Gal 425

1 FX-100

1 Pink Wax
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That's pretty much what I ordered. Except I only got a quart of 425 and added 2180. Loving the FX-100 on top of EX-P.
 
jsatek said:
Does everyone make the same order form Finish Kare?

1 Gal 425

1 FX-100

1 Pink Wax
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You gotta try the 146. It's very similar to 425 in slickness but it has much, much better cleaning ability. It's similar to PB's S&W in it's cleaning ability but it has great slickness.

Excellent for QDing bug smush after a drive. But yeah, other than that, my FK1 order is similar to yours. I want to try the 2180 as my sealant and possibly the 1000P as my Winter LSP.



Eric
 
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