Which products will AIO negate ?

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maxshine

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I'm curious which 'cleaner/polishes' AIO will negate or cancel out.



i.e. from what I understand SMR followed by AIO is OK but what about GEPC followed by AIO ?



I was most curious about GEPC, SSR1, PPCL, and MPPC(I guess this is a stronger cleaner).





Thanks for any input.
 
AIO will only replace paint cleaners. It won't remove swirls so you still need those. It won't cancel out the need for SMR or #9 or FI-II or DACP or whatever you use. Its just a cleaner and a base for your sealant of choice.
 
Showroom/Jngrbrdman,



Yes, but in my experience AIO does polish some also. I haven't used GEPC and I understand it will polish but I don't know if the benefit is mostly from oils that AIO would remove or from light abrasives that AIO would not cancel out.



My last detail I did SMR, PPCL, AIO, and BF2. And I was curious if I really needed the PPCL. Next spring I plan to SMR, GEPC, AIO, UPP and didn't know if I should skip the GEPC.





Thanks
 
I don't know that you need to skip it, but if that is the order you are going to do it then you could probably skip the SMR. SMR fills more swirls than it removes and the GEPC will remove the fillers and thus returning the swirls. AIO would remove the fillers too. If you are going to use SMR then it needs to be fairly close to the end of the process and not the first product used.



I've used GEPC to clean up slight hazing left from heavier polishes. I used the GEPC because the AIO didn't dent it. I was curious about that too, but the AIO didn't do a thing. GEPC took care of it in short order. Take that for what its worth. I'm a firm fan of everybody trying it for themselves so they can know how it works for them.
 
Jngrbrdman,



So from your experience GEPC is a better cleaner than AIO ? And SMR is more oils than light abrasives ? (i.e. AIO after SMR not a great idea ?)



So if I use a swirl remover, GEPC, AIO, UPP. What would a better choice for a swirl remover be in this scenario - DACP ?



I'm still trying out many products but like to get as much info ahead of time as possible.





Again, thanks for your input.
 
Jngrbrdman



A lot of people here in the forum are using SMR or #9 before KLASSE TWINS.



Since everyone here that you are a KLASSE person do you recommend applying #9 or SMR after the KLASSE twins.



And if I apply the #9 or SMR after the twins can I still apply some more KLASSE HGS on top of #9 or SMR?



ALOHA,





P.S. I use KLASSE TWINS too, but I want to know correct sequence of doing it. :bounce
 
maxshine said:
Jngrbrdman,



So from your experience GEPC is a better cleaner than AIO ? And SMR is more oils than light abrasives ? (i.e. AIO after SMR not a great idea ?)



So if I use a swirl remover, GEPC, AIO, UPP. What would a better choice for a swirl remover be in this scenario - DACP ?



I'm still trying out many products but like to get as much info ahead of time as possible.





Again, thanks for your input.
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I didn't say that GEPC was a better cleaner. GEPC didn't just 'clean' those marks off from the heavier compound. GEPC is more abrasive than AIO and therefore is more effective at removing surface scratches. AIO is just a cleaner that isn't meant to remove damage like that. Just use the right product for the job. Don't try to use AIO to remove swirls and don't try to use Souveran to remove Oxidation. Every product has its use and what its best at. Removing swirls is not AIO's cup o tea.



If you are going to use a swirl remover then just use the big dawg and break out the DACP. Skip the GEPC, #9, SMR, and all that. I would go DACP for the swirls, AIO maybe for a base for the sealant, SG or UPP for the sealant, and then a nice carnauba topper a day later. That would be appearance king. Actually, 3 or 4 coats of the sealant first and then the carnauba would be appearance king. GEPC would only be necessary if there is hazing left over from the DACP. AIO would only be neccessary if you wanted a base for the UPP. You could just use DACP and UPP without any of the other products. You may have a little less durability than if you used an AIO base, but since you would probably be adding a new layer before the old one wore off anyway, you probably wouldn't notice.
 
Eros said:
Jngrbrdman



A lot of people here in the forum are using SMR or #9 before KLASSE TWINS.



Since everyone here that you are a KLASSE person do you recommend applying #9 or SMR after the KLASSE twins.



And if I apply the #9 or SMR after the twins can I still apply some more KLASSE HGS on top of #9 or SMR?



ALOHA,





P.S. I use KLASSE TWINS too, but I want to know correct sequence of doing it. :bounce
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I would not recommend using anything with fillers in it before AIO. If you do then you are just going to be stripping out the fillers with AIO and leaving you with whatever swirls are left. If people are using AIO after SMR or #9 then that is exactly what they are doing. I, like most people I would imagine, prefer to remove swirls rather than fill them. Using a more aggresive swirl remover would be a better choice if removing swirls is your actual goal. If just hiding them is your goal then skip the sealants and use a glaze. Sealants won't bond properly if you are using fillers to cover swirls anyway. AIO is meant to clean the surface of anything that would interfere with the sealant's bonding. Using AIO after DACP wouldn't hurt anything. In fact, it would clean off any residue left from the DACP and promote bonding.
 
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