Which oil to use?

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toby tyke

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This may be a touchy subject or may not?, which white oil are you pros using to fine jewel the paint, do you use the oil on the pad on its own or mix it with some final finish polish. OR is this a waste of time, am i better of finishing with, say, 3m machine glaze, or has any body tried the new 3m Polish Rosa?

Many thanks from the boys accross the pond.
 
You mean...polish? For a final step, there are only really two products to choose from, Menzerna PO85RD and 3M Ultrafine Machine Polish (they just changed the name). Another option (and it's a distant third) would be Optimum Polish. Very limited correction but high gloss.
 
some of the pros are using pure white oils to finish off the paint , as a last final step, trouble is which one, they are not too keen on telling you. They either apply a small drop to the pad or mix it with a final finish polish, can anybody help?
 
If you were to finish with say baby oil/mineral oil, all you will be doing is filling in defects. I'm not sure if it adds any gloss. It's best to stick with a polish, imho. A polish is designed to add gloss, mineral oil is not.
 
Ok first to dispell just a couple of things...Using stuff with silicones are other fillers is not always a bad thing. They really can add gloss. The problem is alot of lesser detailers and hack-o-licious guys started using these products to "fill" in defects. If you remove the defects first (as in going into proper burnishing of the paint) it really shouldn't matter even a little bit if the product you use has fillers or not. If there's nothing to fill the only thing that can happen is added gloss which is what those types of products were initially designed for. I've seen people use baby oil before. To me this is more trouble than it's worth. it's a mess and any sort of "oil" is not meant nor designed for automotive paint. There are pleanty of proper products out there that will not only outshine but outlast any sort of "oils" you could possible be using.



remember guys using filler based products it not always a bad thing. Having the skills to properly remove all of the defects in the paint BEFORE you start with filler based products is the key. Note this is not an endorsement to go run out and grab silicone laden products. I'm just saying it's not the worst thing in world if used in proper context. Don't cut corners... Do the job right and the results will speak for themselves.
 
Why use a product with fillers if you intend to do a defect free polish, And how would you know that the panel you just polished is defect free if your using a product with fillers? Doesn't that make it hard to spot if the defects have been removed or not. ?



And if you have used a product without fillers to remove defects and defects have been removed, then whats the point in using a product with fillers after that ? I can understand if you you only have a product with fillers you would want to use it rather than buying new stuff. Im just a newbie so im not trying to be a smart ***, just wondering.







Jakerooni said:
Ok first to dispell just a couple of things...Using stuff with silicones are other fillers is not always a bad thing. They really can add gloss. The problem is alot of lesser detailers and hack-o-licious guys started using these products to "fill" in defects. If you remove the defects first (as in going into proper burnishing of the paint) it really shouldn't matter even a little bit if the product you use has fillers or not. If there's nothing to fill the only thing that can happen is added gloss which is what those types of products were initially designed for. I've seen people use baby oil before. To me this is more trouble than it's worth. it's a mess and any sort of "oil" is not meant nor designed for automotive paint. There are pleanty of proper products out there that will not only outshine but outlast any sort of "oils" you could possible be using.



remember guys using filler based products it not always a bad thing. Having the skills to properly remove all of the defects in the paint BEFORE you start with filler based products is the key. Note this is not an endorsement to go run out and grab silicone laden products. I'm just saying it's not the worst thing in world if used in proper context. Don't cut corners... Do the job right and the results will speak for themselves.
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I think you missed the entire point of my thread then.... I never once mentioned to use a product with fillers to do any sort of correction. I said if you correct the panel first to perfection and you wanted a product to layer on top to produce added gloss that a product with fillers isn't a bad thing at all. You have to look back to when all these filler products first started coming around. They were never meant to fill or hide anything. They were specifically developed to add shine and gloss. The whole term "Filler" started coming in when people started getting lazy and not correcting anything. Basically becoming a hack artist... Then it just really snowballed from there.
 
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