What would you do with UPP and NXT

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Alexaris

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I wonder what would you do with this products, I place today an order for UPP and 303 aerospace protectant and another order for NXT spray, wax and shampoo. (First time user on both products):nixweiss



My car has AIO and 3XSG, right now last coat was 3 weeks ago.



My wife car has AIO and 1XSG, 3 weeks ago



What do you say



1) 1 UPP and 1 NXT to each car

2) 1 car with UPP and the other with NXT

3) any other option



Thanks in advance

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I'm going to try and go pure with the NXT when I get it. I am going to wash and prep with Meguiar's products and then put NXT on so I can know that what I'm seeing is the NXT and not the UPP or SG below it. Its a nasty winter this year so I will be able to test the durability really well too. I don't know that I would layer anything else on it yet since there is still so little known about it. Any review or report on NXT if its being layered with other products will be a little misleading I think. :nixweiss



edit: It looks like the box says it just fills swirls. It doesn't say anything about any abrasives or anything in it. Sounds like it would be safe to layer.
 
Jngrbrdman



I know what you say, probably would be the best choice, but I dont want to rip off 3 coats of Sg on my car, and I think the NXT over the SG is going to be amazing, but SG plus UPP plus NXT could be something nice but as you said Im not going to be willing to say wich one did the best job
 
I'd do wifes car w/ NXT and see if it improves the look.



Your car, I'd top w/ UPP (2-3x) just to compare with the other.



You can always strip both and NXT them of Z them, or whatever ;)
 
Is there any chance that NXT has solvents in it that would act as a cleaner wax? I don't know, that's why I'm asking. I don't remember reading whether or not it layers with anything. Can anyone answer that for me?
 
Ditto...I am planning on trying it out this weekend and can't remember if it can be applied over #3 or #7 and all that jazz. I'll have to dig through the old NTX thread, I guess.
 
I brought NXT as a LSP product only. I will use on different vehicles that have UPP, Meg#26, Zaino and EX as their main present protectants and appearance enhancers.

Not looking for any miracles but hopefully another step towards the ultimate appearing finish. Each notch in improvement becomes more difficult when the "Prep" procedure has almost been maximized. :wavey
 
Alexaris

If you sitck with SG and PUPP, you can continue to layer them. If you throw NXT into the mix :nixweiss :nixweiss



You can always do the NXT thing after you polish the next time. There is no rush and you will have the benefit of others experiences.
 
Gonzo said:
Alexaris

If you sitck with SG and PUPP, you can continue to layer them. If you throw NXT into the mix :nixweiss :nixweiss



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Alexaris has probably already maxxed out any additional appearance improvements and protection by the number of layers already applied. What would be the point of continued layering?

Personally, I do not believe there is any magic elixir in NXT that will separate it from the rest of the pack of elite protectants and appearance enhancers. Hopefully, I am wrong and a new higher plateau has been established. Can not wait to try but I feel this product will demostrate greater gains on poorly or less anally prepped vehicles then Autopian vehicles. :nixweiss Again I hope I am wrong. :wavey
 
Jngrbrdman said:
Is there any chance that NXT has solvents in it that would act as a cleaner wax? I don't know, that's why I'm asking. I don't remember reading whether or not it layers with anything. Can anyone answer that for me?
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I really don't think it has enough solvents in it to disturb anything already on your paint. Remember Mike has been pushing it as a LSP (Last Step Product).
 
Meh, it does. All products contain solvents, but some are milder than others. For now, I'm not saying anything other than the suggestion that NXT cleans more so than SG, UPP/BF/DPPS, and Z2/Z5.
 
OK if you want to be picky about it yes, it probably does but my point was the way it is being described by Mike indicates that it should not remove anything below it.
 
Looks like we have lots of ???, but lets try everything possible so we can determine wich one is better. After all the things you say, Im going to try different methods. Im going to do some test with the NXT with my customers cars.



Please everybody post their reviews



By the way thanks for the answers to this post
 
Until I have some NXT in my hands and can experiment with it, I really don't know the answer. The last time I went nuts on my own car, I used Meguiars Swirl Free Polish, Klasse AIO and UPP x 3 (UPP layers applied 1 week apart), so I'll be able to see how it looks over UPP myself.
 
Quote: NXT Tech Wax is intended for use on finishes in new or excellent condition. It is definitely not a cleaner wax.



If your finish is neglected, oxidized, stained, scratched, swirled, etc. then you need to use a pre-wax paint cleaner or some other type of pre-wax surface prep. Mike Phillips.





~Hope this helps~





Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/



justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
rjstaaf said:
I really don't think it has any solvents in it. Remember Mike has been pushing it as a LSP (Last Step Product).
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No solvents?? Oh cool, so it's applied the same way you apply surfboard wax? :D



Hehe, j/p. It sounds like a NON-CLEANING final protectant, however there is no such thing as an automotive wax or sealant that does not contain solvents. Like BW said, some are milder than others which will play a role in just how effectively the product can layer.
 
~One man’s opinion / observations~



The only thing I’ve read (so far anyway, on ‘layering NXT)



Quote: Like most synthetic waxes, NXT Tech Wax likes to be applied to a clean surface that has been prepped with a pre-wax cleaner. However, I did a side-by-side on an un-prepared panel to test slickness and ease of application in less than ideal conditions. Having been driven more than 1,200 miles in the past month and not waxed since before the San Diego fires started, the Cayenne’s paint was in need of some TLC.



I used a microfiber applicator to apply NXT Tech Wax on the unprepared paint in order to get a bit of cleaning action. On the prepared paint I used a fine foam applicator. I applied the product in two thin coats, rubbing it in well, but not buffing off between coats. I allowed the product to sit for a minute or so and buffed it off with one of my Concours Buffing Towels.



Buffing out NXT Tech Wax was very easy. There was a little residue, but no streaking. I mean none! Some of the high-tech products I’ve tested recently can’t make this claim. So, let me put it to you simply this way: NXT Tech Wax may be setting a new standard for ease of application. Easy on, easy off. No fuss! DavidB



So it would seem that the only solvent is used to soften the polymer, as opposed to acting as a cleaner.





~Hope this helps~





Experience unshared; is knowledge wasted…/



justadumbarchitect * so i question everything*
 
Intermezzo said:
No solvents?? Oh cool, so it's applied the same way you apply surfboard wax? :D



Hehe, j/p. It sounds like a NON-CLEANING final protectant, however there is no such thing as an automotive wax or sealant that does not contain solvents. Like BW said, some are milder than others which will play a role in just how effectively the product can layer.
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As I already stated I probably should have chosen my words a little more carefully knowing how nit-picky some can be. My point was that I seriously doubt there are enough solvents in it to affect anything that is currently on your paint.



Gee I just don't know how I ever got along without you guys to point this stuff out to me :rolleyes:
 
Nitpicky? Sure, that's what Autopia's all about. i.e. Nit Picky = Gooooooood!!



But getting defensive about something you were wrong about = Baaaaaaad!! :D



(Lighten up, will you?)
 
rjstaaf said:
As I already stated I probably should have chosen my words a little more carefully knowing how nit-picky some can be. My point was that I seriously doubt there are enough solvents in it to affect anything that is currently on your paint.
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That is correct... NXT has zero, zip, nadda cleaning action. You must use a good pre-wax cleaner prior to your first application. Do not use a polish loaded with oils. NXT needs a squeaky clean surface to get a good grip. I'm on my 6th wash now with good shine and nice water beading.



db
 
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