What should the penalty be...

tom p.

tom p.

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...for swirling one's car:bawling:



I picked up this ’08 Accord a couple weeks ago to replace my old GM winter-beater. I did a quikee job on it the next day to hold it over ‘til fall prep comes around. My swirl inducing process was limited to the following:



  • Wash
  • RMG applied with softest Presta on Makita, very low speed
  • CG5050 applied with PC
I’m a bit concerned about the long-term ramifications of how soft this finish is. Will it be a durability issue 10yrs from now, for example?



The paint looks excellent when the car is spotlessly clean. However, as soon as it gets dusty or dirty, the swirls are just popping out. Some of the trails are pretty bad. I know what I need to do to correct it. What are others doing in terms of a sealant and additional preparation on such soft paint? I’m just trying to keep it simple - - not looking for any new “projects�.



Thanks for your input,



King o’ Swirls



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50 lashes with a wet microfiber! :nono (stole that from someone on here, forgot who)



Use an LSP that maintains it's slickness, that is a very important factor in reducing washing induced marring.
 
That is a really sharp-looking car. I saw one in that color/interior combo just yesterday - it was the first new Accord that made me turn my head.



On my wife's old Acura TSX I layered coats of sealant for reasonably durable protection. It was still a bit more difficult than I would've thought to maintain, and water spots and bird poop etched really quickly.
 
VroomVroom said:
That is a really sharp-looking car. I saw one in that color/interior combo just yesterday - it was the first new Accord that made me turn my head.



On my wife's old Acura TSX I layered coats of sealant for reasonably durable protection. It was still a bit more difficult than I would've thought to maintain, and water spots and bird poop etched really quickly.
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Thanks - I've had a lot of compliments on it which has surprised me a bit. I've never considered a Honda before, well, not for the past 30yrs since we bought a new Civic. The cars simply don't have adequate interior room for 4 - 5 people. This car is different.



Have you had any issues or concerns with the paint on the TSX?
 
Bigpoppa3346 said:
50 lashes with a wet microfiber! :nono (stole that from someone on here, forgot who)



Use an LSP that maintains it's slickness, that is a very important factor in reducing washing induced marring.
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OK, OK, that doesn't sound too bad. I'm just glad somebody hasn't suggested restricting me to a steady diet of NuFinish for the next 10 years! :thx
 
Unfortunately we sold the TSX after two years, so I can't offer much in the way of long-term feedback. I know it's dangerous to generalize, but I see a lot of Honda cars on the road - most have paint that seems to hold up well, while others have clearcoat failure, oxidation, etc. I've got to think that you'll be fine, but you'll occasionally grumble about the extra effort. :D



:lol @ NuFinish!
 
Yeah, it's kinda weird, I see tons of old Hondas still running around here where loads of salt is used - - - the doors and fenders are generally intact. Maybe there's more than meets the eye when it comes to thin sheet metal :nixweiss
 
Are you absolutly sure you put the swirls in? I wonder if you just removed a heavy glaze from the dealership that made the swirls pop.
 
I think Greg Nichols has a good point.

Considering you live in New England your best bet could be collinite #885. I’m in CT and I use it on almost every Honda that comes my way. A can of #885 should come with every Honda that rolls out of the factory. It helps a lot with all the different elements we see up here.
 
Greg Nichols said:
Are you absolutly sure you put the swirls in? I wonder if you just removed a heavy glaze from the dealership that made the swirls pop.
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Yeah, the swirls are my doing. I'm fairly certain the dealer only removed the plastic sheeting and then washed the car. There are two isolated areas where somebody went crazy trying to remove something, perhaps a spot. That won't be too hard to clean up.



Thx.
 
miahman98 said:
I think Greg Nichols has a good point.

Considering you live in New England your best bet could be collinite #885. I’m in CT and I use it on almost every Honda that comes my way. A can of #885 should come with every Honda that rolls out of the factory. It helps a lot with all the different elements we see up here.
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Uggh, Fleetwax? How 'bout #845 as an alternative :)
 
# 845 in my opinion looks better and has more pop than Fleetwax but I cant get it to last as long. You have a great color there on that Honda, so go with the Insulator wax for spring and summer/…. And for fall and winter go with Fleetwax. I know #885 will mute any flake your Honda has but it will save your buttocks when the bad weather hits.



If it doesn’t work I will buy you a new car. :spit:
 
LOL, OK, I'll take your word for it and order another tin. I checked my supply and it's long gone, as is every other mild polish I've ever owned apart from Meg's 83, a little bit of Griot's #3 fine polish and some small amounts of Menz IP and FP . I think I saw some 3M SMR for dk colors. That might just be the ticket.



Thanks again for the rec!
 
Tom P.- Yeah, the 476S/Fleetwax works better for me than 845 too :nixweiss It really sheds dirt well, so regular (proper ;) ) washes oughta go OK. Just don't let the dirt/etc. really *bond* to the vehicle, wash such stuff off before it's on there too long (no, not every few days, but don't wait a month).



Are you using a foamgun? I simply cannot wash marring-free without one.
 
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