what should i charge

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okay guys, i have a potential detail coming up and i sorta need some cash. it's a07 black shelby gt/cs. wash, wax, wheels and basic interior. slight over spray on wheels from something. clay bar should clean that right up



what do you think a good price would be? being black it will obviously need correction, but the customer isn't in the market for it. usually i can come up with prices pretty easily but for some reason im drawing a blank here. obviously from my post you can tell im not a professional, but trying to make money on the side. thanks, guys!



wash

wax

over spray removal on wheels

basic interior (wipe down, leather condition, vaccuum etc.)





price = ?
 
I've been doing everything hourly. For something like that, I'd probably do a 1 step polish such as Megs #80 and a nice sealant over the top. Cost would approx be $200 on the low side.
 
I just did the same thing...well, wash, clay front end, M80 with an orange pad via PC, OCW, windows, wheels, tires, carpet folexed, leather conditioned, interior protectant, vacuumed = 220 on a ford mustang
 
I'd probably use Poli-Seal instead of #80. I get micromarring from #80 on the A pillars using a PC on black Fords. Otherwise, I agree with the others on this one.
 
Wash, clay, wax and interior I normally charge $175 but with overspray on the rims could take you forever.



Don't expect the clay to work on baked on overspray like that.



Josh
 
Are you guys out of your god forsakin friggin minds???? $200 for a friggin spiff job? (wash wax and wipe down) that entire job can't possibly take more than 45 minutes tops. For everything listed there I would probably charge between $30-$45 pending on what type of wax they wanted... Why?? Because I like being in the $50/hr range and that my freinds is no where close to an hours worth of work there. I think pure greed has taken over the minds of alot of people on these boards. It's not about how badly we can rip off customers. It's about getting a fair price for a fair job. There's nothing remotely complicated or hard or even skillful about whats listed there. There's nothing time consuming or troublesome. That is a very straight forward easy task.... $200.... my frggin god people. :confused:
 
$200 is fair if he will be doing a polish/paint correction



if its just a wash, clay, and wax, and full interior should be closer to the $120 range



$50? thats a basic wash and a minor interior cleanup in this area
 
Jakerooni said:
Are you guys out of your god forsakin friggin minds???? $200 for a friggin spiff job? (wash wax and wipe down) that entire job can't possibly take more than 45 minutes tops. For everything listed there I would probably charge between $30-$45 pending on what type of wax they wanted... Why?? Because I like being in the $50/hr range and that my freinds is no where close to an hours worth of work there. I think pure greed has taken over the minds of alot of people on these boards. It's not about how badly we can rip off customers. It's about getting a fair price for a fair job. There's nothing remotely complicated or hard or even skillful about whats listed there. There's nothing time consuming or troublesome. That is a very straight forward easy task.... $200.... my frggin god people. :confused:







For this kind of work I'll easily spend 3 1/2 hours on a regular car if the interior's in good shape.



It will take me 45 minutes just to do the interior, at that rate I'm looking at about $60 per hour.



Some of us actually detail cars Jake.



....... I know, I know, I'm an elitest snob, go ahead and say it, it's all you ever say.



You don't actually bring anything useful to this forum, you just criticize everyone else's pricing. Why can't you just answer his question without having to blast everyone for making money?:nixweiss



Josh
 
Wow... I'm really cheap compared to you guys... I just charge 20 an hour, but I also don't do this full time or as a side to make a significant amount of my living expenses. I know that sounds sorta mean, but I don't mean it like that in anyway, but I just do it for side money since I'm a full time college student and I'm trying to establish myself a bit better here.
 
Well, I am a pro, and I'd charge $90 to wash and wax and vac interior. And windows.



If it needs clay, well that's a game changer. We never clay a black car without expecting to create marring, and therefore requiring some buffing. We have a surcharge of $30-40 to do black cars.



Overspray on the wheels - I'd have to see it. How does it get just on the wheels?



If we did all the work? $195. But, since "the customer isn't in the market for it", it may be a job that I'd pass on.



I'm casually curious why the poster poses the question in a Professional forum...
 
Hake, its all about demographics...



your 75 bucks is about the same as so cal's 200



and I could never get through a wash, wax, light interior in 45 minutes. It takes me a little over an hour to get a wash, spray wax, and dusting on the inside, wheels and tires on a sl500 in silver....throw black in the mix, a larger car, a machine applied wax, and more interior work, I would be sitting at about 3 hours, add a one step instead of wax, and its at least 4 hours...
 
About 200 depending on what it looked like when i saw it. Thats with clay and an AIO . Polish would be extra.
 
Naw Josh your not an elitest snob. You do great work. But I would easily put my "detailing" skills up against your's any day of the week. Not saying I'm better by any means But I know full well I can hang with even the best so far on this site. The main difference is my clientle don't require what you guys in the south's clientle require. And I understand demographic's play a HUGE part in what people can charge. My point (as I did answer the poster's question as to what I would charge and why) if it seriously takes you 3-1/2 hours on something this basic and straight forward you're simply doing something wrong in my eyes. Now paint correction and actually "detailing" the inside (which is very clearly stated not what this guy is intending on doing) is one thing and I can actually see some of the prices you guys can get. But if a basic handwash wax and wipe down of the interior takes you more than an hour.... well something's just not right with that picture.



And for the record just according to how other people post on here Josh.. I'd be the last person to complain about people making money considering I probably gross more than most of the guys on this board including yourself annually. It's all about how you want to market yourself. for what it's worh anyway. I just don't like it when people seem to intentionally or unintentionally rip off customers based on time charged details. And as I've been invited to other locations I'll do the same if you seriously can't figure out how to properly do what's listed (not hack it but seriously do it properly) in under an hour by all means if you're ever in the area stop on in and I'll show you.
 
For what it’s worth, I personally feel that the only reason why someone can’t charge what they want isn’t because of their clients, it’s because of their own ability (or inability) to market themselves, their services and create/build value in their offering. Like the old saying goes:â€�Able to sell snow to an Eskimo…â€� is all relative to one’s ability quite frankly. Different markets *can* play a direct role in the price ceiling of what you’re able to reach on a regular basis, but it doesn’t mean the potential isn’t there. I have a client that has multiple (12) cars both here in Florida as well as Ohio. He is more than willing to pay me 3 times as much ($800) for my mid level service not because it’s Florida, but because I sell and represent myself better than his detailer in Ohio does for $250. I have no doubt that if the detailer in Ohio asked for more, he’d get it. He’s clearly underselling himself and ultimately not helping this industry. The real enemy isn’t the cost sensitive public, it’s the person offering low value services out of fear of rejection or because they feel it necessary to stay competitive to the market rate.



Now, as far as Jake and you’re rates. Do you feel that your rates are relative to what the market will bear? I’m not real certain about Flint, but I personally know shops in Lansing, Ann Arbor, Kalamazoo, Grand Rapids, City of Detroit and the Detroit suburbs and they are able to successfully charge *almost* one and a half times as much as you do. I know Flint isn’t the best city (financially), but neither is Detroit. My shop in Redford primarily focused(s) on “turn em & burn em� volume dealer work, but I still charged more for a retail complete detail way back in the 90’s than you currently do (based on your web-site). It’s not because I was “ripping off� my clients, but because my customers were taught and realized value in what I had to offer. Case in point, there was a car wash down the street from me that use to have a huge sign(25ft X 10ft) that advertised $100 COMPLETE DETAILS. People would shop and compare my rates with theirs and very rarely did I loose a sale.



Here in Florida, it’s flooded with mobile car washers that call and consider themselves “detailersâ€� doing glorified wash & wax “completeâ€� details charging $75-$100. They are the ones that are really killing the public’s perception of professional detailing. I know of less than a ½ dozen real pros here that focus and charge high end (realistic) rates. It’s not because they’re getting away with “ripping offâ€� their clients; charging $400-$800(or many times much more), but it’s because they make their clients aware that they aren’t on the level of the hack cheapie competitors. Many won’t stoop down and settling for only $100-$200 for that much hard work, even if it only takes 3 ½ hours. It’s all about building value and educating your perspective clients.





Post 3000. Thanks Autopia. :thx
 
Way to go David. We joined around the same time, guess i have some post'n to do.



To the OP, around here $120 for the job less the time for the rim problem, that would be by the hour.
 
Also, I'd throw up a big red flag if there's overspray on the wheels of any vehicle. High potential for overspray elsewhere as well as body shop swirls. Doing a wash & wax won't be doing this vehicle a justice. Especially on a black 07 Mustang. Sell the guy a correction package 1st and then focus on a maintenance regime. Even if the client is on a budget, there's no reason why is collector car should be 1/2 arsed. Show him how much different and better it will look with some polishing.
 
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