2000firebird
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what do you guys think? Just finishing up polishing stages, and I couldn't remember what order to apply these three. Also do you think only two are necessary? which ones?
What Order (Wax)?: Collinite 845, Poorboys EX, Nattys Blue Paste
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Well...845 and Natty blue are both waxes. Those would go last. If i'm not mistaken Poorboys EX is a sealant W Carnuba.
I would do the sealant first. let it cure. and then top it with wax. I would do 2-3 coats of the same before i mixed them.
845 Will last longer than Natty blue but blue will probably shine better.
Your preference
On my vehicle's that are daily driven i use Rejex and top it with 845. Looks very good and lasts a LONG time.
I would do the sealant first. let it cure. and then top it with wax. I would do 2-3 coats of the same before i mixed them.
845 Will last longer than Natty blue but blue will probably shine better.
Your preference
On my vehicle's that are daily driven i use Rejex and top it with 845. Looks very good and lasts a LONG time.
2000firebird
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alright thanks, 845 seems to work amazing so i will probably go EX -> collinite. When you say 2-3 coats of the same did you mean of the sealant or wax?
Dan
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There isn't much point to using EX if you are following up with 845. If you have the extra time, spending it polishing or cleaning something else. If the paint is a dark color, follow up with NB, or another coat of 845 on lighter colors.
2000firebird said:
Pick the one you like best and do two coats to insure complete coverage and than maintain. Don't fall for this multiple coats of multiple products BS. I have never seen any evidence that anything can be layered especially when your using multiple products. I guarantee you can apply those three products in any order you want and you won't notice any difference from just using one of them.
Zaino and Klasse fan boys save your breath I don't buy your BS. I have tried both for my self so your opinion on their ability to layer means crap to me.
imported_NRZ
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845 then Nattys would look awesome!
2000firebird
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i see where you are going anthony, but there are alot more knowledgable members here with alot more time in detailing than you, no offense obviously.
If i went by looks only, EX goes great on black, and for some reason i think i get more reflection out of 845 then i do from nattys? suprised me too, but it just seemed that way the last time i tried it.
If i went by looks only, EX goes great on black, and for some reason i think i get more reflection out of 845 then i do from nattys? suprised me too, but it just seemed that way the last time i tried it.
2000firebird said:
Ha Ha how do you know how long or how much time I have been detailing? My post count? When you have been detailing as long as me you won't be asking questions like the one you did to start this thread. You will read the question and shake your head and say been there seen that and done it.
Anyway go a head and layer till your heart is content I'm sure the results will be dramatic and everybody that looks at the paint will know exactly what you used and what order you used it.
No offense obviously.
BIOLINK
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Anthony A said:
This is good stuff!
Anthony A said:Anyway go a head and layer till your heart is content I'm sure the results will be dramatic and everybody that looks at the paint will know exactly what you used and what order you used it.
So when did this whole layering thing start anyway? Did it start with the folks putting nuba on a sealant? Are we chucking that now too, or just the two waxes on each other? I'm with you I challenge anyone to tell which went on first or prove it made a difference. I like to wax in between applications of a sealant but only one wax on one sealant. :drool:
biolink said:
The Zaino and Klasse guys have been doing it for years.
David Bynon the owner of this site did a write up years ago about putting a nuba over Klasse SG so you could have the durability of a Sealant and the look of a nuba and that has merit. The Klasse left to cure would probably not get removed by a paste wax gently applied over it. He wasn't advocating going ape $hit with 5 different products and 10 different layers either.
It's like anything though. You start out with an idea that is reasonable and people warp it to the point of stupidity. There are clowns out there putting 30+ coats of Klasse and Zaino on. There was one guy on another forum that did the same thing with Nattys. If they aren't pushing the number of layers than they are into the 3 and 4 different product combos like this thread starter. He actually think these 3 products will layer and make a difference in appearance depending on the order they are applied. If you question them on it they say you haven't been detailing long even though I probably started long before the guy was driving and tried the things he is doing and found them to be absurd.
2000firebird
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Anthony A said:He actually think these 3 products will layer and make a difference in appearance depending on the order they are applied. If you question them on it they say you haven't been detailing long even though I probably started long before the guy was driving and tried the things he is doing and found them to be absurd.
quote where i said i thought all three would make a difference in appearance? Oh, maybe you just made that assumption. I even asked if they would or wouldn't be necessary. Theres nothing wrong with using a sealant then a wax, and thats all I've intended to do. Take your troll rage elsewhere.
Dan
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2000firebird said:
Lol...lots of angry folk around here lately.
RaskyR1
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Anthony A said:
I concur! IMO layering is nothing more than a marketing ploy! :bigups
2000firebird said:
You want to apply 3 products. You asked what order would be best. If you didn't think there would be a difference why ask? You could just apply what ever when ever. You asked because you must think there would be a difference. It's clear thats what you implied. It was reasonable for me to come to that conclusion. Don't back track now because a few people here agree with me.
And for your info I'm not trolling and ceratainly not raging.
mikenap
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Anthony A said:
I don't think it's what you say but the way you say it. Whether intentional or not, you're coming off as brusque and confrontational. The OP's question and the responses of others could have easily been answered without the need for sarcasm or condescension. :chill: