What is your favorite QD that uses no silicone?

what do you have against silicone?



it is only a problem if you are painting the car

and IMO any bodyshop that is worth anything will know kow to remove it
 
BigJimZ28 said:
what do you have against silicone?



it is only a problem if you are painting the car

and IMO any bodyshop that is worth anything will know kow to remove it
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I don't like dealing with it as a clay lubricant if I'll be performing correction afterwards. I like being able to perform an IPA wipedown and be done with it, as apposed to prepsol.
 
charlesaferg said:
I don't like dealing with it as a clay lubricant if I'll be performing correction afterwards. I like being able to perform an IPA wipedown and be done with it, as apposed to prepsol.
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:bigups Great post!
 
Depending on how bad the surface is, I will use wash soap mixed in a bottle, or if it really bad then Prepsol as a lube. Just make sure you test your clay with it to see if it compatable.
 
rydawg said:
Depending on how bad the surface is, I will use wash soap mixed in a bottle, or if it really bad then Prepsol as a lube. Just make sure you test your clay with it to see if it compatable.
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Yea, I used to use soap, but I have a terrible habit of going a bit too far and the soap seems to dry, and lose it's lubricity faster - although it's 20 times cheaper.



Ha, regarding prepsol - I was going to say, I would have imagined it would eat clay. I can't imagine how terrible it would be as a lube though, quick drying, such a thin liquid. Let alone the marring it would produce. I could see the clay sticking like mad, and breaking up if it 'wasn't compatible. But I can't say anything about that, because I've never tried it.



Lastly, nothing is wrong with prepsol, as it works absolute wonders - I just find alcohol cheaper, easier to find, easier on the hands, and less likely by a small amount to mar the paint and be difficult. Still though, If I'm worried about marring, it won't matter because I'll be correcting anyways.



rydawg said:
:bigups Great post!
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Thanks, I just find it wreaks havoc on Menzerna compounds, especially when the weather changes or gets humid - when Menz acts up a little already, I just don't need any more trouble because I love my compounds. It just causes me trouble when I'm doing heavier correction, particularly with my cutting compounds, much less while working the polishing and jewling products.
 
charlesaferg said:
Yea, I used to use soap, but I have a terrible habit of going a bit too far and the soap seems to dry, and lose it's lubricity faster - although it's 20 times cheaper.



Ha, regarding prepsol - I was going to say, I would have imagined it would eat clay. I can't imagine how terrible it would be as a lube though, quick drying, such a thin liquid. Let alone the marring it would produce. I could see the clay sticking like mad, and breaking up if it 'wasn't compatible. But I can't say anything about that, because I've never tried it.



Lastly, nothing is wrong with prepsol, as it works absolute wonders - I just find alcohol cheaper, easier to find, easier on the hands, and less likely by a small amount to mar the paint and be difficult. Still though, If I'm worried about marring, it won't matter because I'll be correcting anyways.







Thanks, I just find it wreaks havoc on Menzerna compounds, especially when the weather changes or gets humid - when Menz acts up a little already, I just don't need any more trouble because I love my compounds. It just causes me trouble when I'm doing heavier correction, particularly with my cutting compounds, much less while working the polishing and jewling products.
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Your right, silicones will make some compounds and polishes act up, especially when it is colder and damp. Menzerna polishes do not mix well and all my testing that I have done with Menzerna, the biggest problems occured were when the surface was not 100% stripped from all silicones. Removing older embedded silicones is not easy sometimes.



Claying with Prepsol takes a little talent but works amazing once the method and technique is learned. It works like a double wammy killing a few birds with one stone.



IPA does an amazing job at removing polishing oils and most fillers. Prepsol will not remove all the oils and fillers in one wipe.



A Brinkmann dual Xenon light will be the best inspection tool.
 
ONR is good at QD strength. But when I clay I just do it during my ONR wash. I don’t know if it has silicone or not.
 
Legacy99 said:
I believe ONR has polymers.
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Yea, I wasn't under the impression it used silicone either.



rydawg said:
Your right, silicones will make some compounds and polishes act up, especially when it is colder and damp. Menzerna polishes do not mix well and all my testing that I have done with Menzerna, the biggest problems occured were when the surface was not 100% stripped from all silicones. Removing older embedded silicones is not easy sometimes.



Claying with Prepsol takes a little talent but works amazing once the method and technique is learned. It works like a double wammy killing a few birds with one stone.



IPA does an amazing job at removing polishing oils and most fillers. Prepsol will not remove all the oils and fillers in one wipe.



A Brinkmann dual Xenon light will be the best inspection tool.
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You know what, you've got a good point. Since I'm doing correction afterwards, I won't have to worry about removing fillers necessarily - unless I know the vehicle has been recently detailed and am repairing a failed attempt.



Where do you guys get it? I'll try it out on my rear bumper (needs claying by now) and rport the results.
 
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