What final polish after using Menzerna PO106FF?

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Proballer25

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Hey guys i had a quick question after polishing my Silverado with the Menzerna PO106FF +white pad what should i finish up with? Or can this be used as a solo step without a finishing polish? I have an ssr1 but im not sure if this is more or less abrassive then the menzerna. I was thinking of using somthing wit ha black pad im just not sure what i should be using. Anyhelp here? Thanks.
 
Alright only reason why i ask is becouse after doing my whole truck with the menzerna it looked stunning but for some reason seemed liked it had a very slight hazing in some areas under direct sunlight. I toped it with 2 coats of natty's blue 24 hours apart. I tryed doing RMG to my hood but i didnt like how it was leaving the paint. Seemed like it was bluring out my paint and leaving a nasty oily residue that was hard as hell to wipe off so i didnt continue. I applyed the rmg with a black pad on speed 4.
 
106ff is a final polish. You could go over it with 085rd if you have it (they stopped selling it in USA) but I would not expect much better of a finish as they are both finish polishes. Maybe try a finishing pad.
 
If you are getting a hazy with 106 you are not working the product long enough and getting a complete break down of the abrasives. Try a spot and work it just a little longer.
 
z06meister said:
You could go over it with 085rd if you have it (they stopped selling it in USA) but I would not expect much better of a finish as they are both finish polishes.
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PO85RD is available in States. Detailer's Domain carries it, for example.



Using PO85RD after 106FF (well, BF SRC FP) did result in noticable difference on Toyota single stage red.
 
Zoran, there's a process issue there. They both finish the same and you shouldn't be able to tell a difference at all.
 
It's hard to say when something is done. You need to look at it and decide if it's good enough. I would agree that if you are getting hazing then the product is not being worked long enough, or too long.
 
SpoiledMan said:
Zoran, there's a process issue there. They both finish the same and you shouldn't be able to tell a difference at all.
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I trust you when you say something. However, process being wrong with 106FF would be logical to be wrong for PO85RD too. Also, if they were identical why would Menzerna see need to manufacture both? Are they identical in what they finish down to and difference is in how much they can handle at start?



Therefore I am :nixweiss



I definitely need to find a way to catch up with you once you can to show me what I am doing wrong. Written communication, or even video, lacks benefit of sensory experience.
 
You have to work the 106 a little longer to break it down. There is just a bit more cut in the 106 so you *have* to finish it out properly or it will leave its own marring. 85rd on the other hand starts out so fine that there is little for it to correct of itself. Make sense? I'd be glad to show you the ins and outs.
 
SpoiledMan said:
You have to work the 106 a little longer to break it down. There is just a bit more cut in the 106 so you *have* to finish it out properly or it will leave its own marring. 85rd on the other hand starts out so fine that there is little for it to correct of itself. Make sense? I'd be glad to show you the ins and outs.
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It does make sense, but please notice I did not say I was noticing difference in correction nor that 106FF left me with marring, I was noticing difference in gloss (it was higher after 85RD) even though I thought 106FF already made it nice and glossy :nixweiss However, my gf could not see any difference.



In any case, :woohoo: I get to learn from the best :D
 
I'm understanding that you're not speaking of the correcting ability or marring but that you're talking about the gloss level after finished. There should be no difference between the two once worked properly.



You get to learn from the best??? I thought *I* was teaching you??
 
SpoiledMan said:
You get to learn from the best??? I thought *I* was teaching you??
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Exactly! You are the one teaching me so I am getting to learn from (one of) the best! Now shutup and take a compliment (or a brownie point attempt) like a man! :D
 
ZoranC said:
It does make sense, but please notice I did not say I was noticing difference in correction nor that 106FF left me with marring, I was noticing difference in gloss (it was higher after 85RD) even though I thought 106FF already made it nice and glossy :nixweiss However, my gf could not see any difference.



In any case, :woohoo: I get to learn from the best :D
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I've never used either of those two, although an order of 106ff is on the way, but did you do a panel with 106ff, then divide it in 2 and do 1 side 106 again while the other gets 85rd ??

That would be the only way to tell whether the 85rd is finishing better than 106ff, or if it's simply another fine polishing step that's adding the extra gloss...

Again, I've never dealt with either of the 2 polishes, but have seen this happen with others
 
lecchilo said:
... did you do a panel with 106ff, then divide it in 2 and do 1 side 106 again while the other gets 85rd ??
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I did a panel with 106FF and then did part of it with 85RD.
 
Possible that the surface was not at it's max potential and that the second polishing got it there. While it's unlikely that this is the case here it is possible. I've used both of these polishes extensively as well as RE5 and they all finish the same it's just a matter of how severe a defect they will remove.
 
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