Well this isn't 'bout detailing and I'll probaly get in trouble but...

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There are some good people in our country who are hurting right now down South.



The destruction in some parts is total, the loss of life incalcuable as of yet and those who survived have no where to go, no food, clean water, and many have even lost hope for the future as everything they've had and held dear has been swept away.



No matter how technologically advanced our race of men think we are, Mother Nature has her way of letting us know who is still boss.



I just wanted to throw this out there cause I feel for those people. It's really a fu*ked up situaton to be in.
 
Sad thing is, a lot of the loss of life was preventable if people would have evacuated the high risk areas as they were told to do. The looters certainly are not helping the situation either.
 
Scottwax said:
Sad thing is, a lot of the loss of life was preventable if people would have evacuated the high risk areas as they were told to do. The looters certainly are not helping the situation either.
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I was stationed at Ft Polk many moons ago, and been to Nawleens a few times.

Without question one of the most beautiful cities I've ever had the pleasure to

visit in my lifetime. I feel bad that the town will never quite be the same, if

there ever is a town to go back to in the future. It is really rough out there now,

cause even though the the storm did not hit straight on, the water level is going

up. No electricity, no clean water, no food that you can really get to. And just

to make things interesting, there are reports that snakes and gators are roaming

about out there as well. Definitely not a place you want to be in right now.



That said, I have absolutely no sympathy for the morons who decided to ride it

out. It's one thing if you are unfortunate not to have a means to get to highground,

but it's another thing altogether to think you can actully survive a storm or it's

aftermath; especially when there was the indication that a portion of LA would be buried

under water. Now ther are all sorts of good folks out there risking their lives

to rescue the few idiots that did not have the common sense to leave when

they had the chance. As for the looters, well I sure they saw this as a windfall

oppurtunity. Here's hoping a few of them get bit in the tuckus by water mocasin :furious:
 
I agree that they should have left. But as you can see many of the people are poor and maybe did not have a way to get out in time. The death toll will make Sept 11 look small. I want to get a group of guys together from my church and head down there in a few weeks to help people get their houses back together.
 
Zippy,



It will be a while before anyone is allowed back there to even start to decide on how to fix the area. Not until the get the water and electical grid back up to speed will anyone be allowed in to try and "assess" the devastation.



It'll me be many months before anything of real significance happen there.



usdm,

Sympathy, the poverty there is soo high, many people had no choice but to ride it out. People may have made a very poor judgement to stay but you can not understand what they must have been feeling at the time.



I feel awful for "Anyone: who lost there lives in this event, regardless of why they were there went it hit.



Paco
 
I will agree with everyone that those who could've left should've. Some said that they had ridden out "Andrew" so how bad can it get, that was supposed to have been the worse storm to date?



Getting old people to leave their homes is sometimes hard, after they've been living there for decades. It's sort of like a captian and a sinking ship (no pun intended).



Those states should've issued a "mandatory" evacuation order but the probelm is where to you evacuate the population of three states to?



zippymbr:



Your heart and mind are in the right place. It takes alot to leave the comfort and peace of one's home to head into what others are trying to flee just to help out. For free no less.
 
The simple fact is, there was no evacutation procedure to follow so blaming anyone is a horrible thing to do:



Where should people have gone?

How far?

What should they have brought?

What if you didn't have the means?



The US government wasn't prepared, the local governments were not prepared, the Emergency services were not prepared.



How could an individual or family really comprehend the devastation that was about to ensue; especially the lower economic status population with little or no resources to make a decision?



Paco
 
We did the same thing after Andrew. Groups of people would spend their vacation in south FL rebuilding homes months after the storm sruck. I will be looking for oportunities in Missip, for some reason I do not feel good about La. The question is why wern't the governments ready? They know it was coming! Here in NC we take this stuff seriously, board up and get out!
 
This storm and how unprepared the city looks is probably going to drastically hurt the economy there. What large corp is going to want to move an office building there?



I've already heard of one company that's speaking about getting all the stuff out of their building and relocating to Houston already because the city is going to be inoperable for many months.



Plus all the rioting and looting that's beginning to go on isn't looking good plus there could be a large disease outbreak.
 
personally i feel if you are dumb enough to live in a city that's 60' below sea level... sinks each year.... is lower than a lake... and is made out of a swamp..... you had it coming





not to sound cold hearted





also i feel there is no need to send them extra relief money or funds in this time of need.... if it takes a disaster to make people genous and helping other, then were in bad times people. That's worse than doing nothing at all... it's like trying to make up for doing nothing all the rest of the time...



Personally since i've had a job i've been donating 5% of my check before taxes to the united way every single week (and i don't write it off either)



We have taxes in this country for a reason... to help when stuff like this happens.... guilt tripping me and my family saying it's the good thing to do is low



People down south say i'm crazy for living in maine because i have snow storms and blizzards.... yah... well no bliddard is gonna knock my house down or kill me





sorry for the rant... i posted this in the "i donated" thread and a mod deleted it.... land of the free indeed
 
LiquidCesium said:
sorry for the rant... i posted this in the "i donated" thread and a mod deleted it.... land of the free indeed
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It was deleted because it had NOTHNG to do with that thread. Plus Autopia is privately owned and isn't a democracy either. You can't get more "land of the free" than having control of your own private property. Sigh, there's always one in every bunch :rolleyes:



Nobody is guilt tripping anybody into donating :think: Rather, if people have the means, maybe they could help out in some fashion. To instill guilt is to tell someone they are wrong for not doing something and I have yet to hear that from anyone anywhere.



Why do you donate to the United Way, when "we have taxes" for that kind of "stuff." Our tax dollars are earmarked for a wide range of social welfare programs at the federal, state and local levels to the tune of billions of dollars. You think you're the only one who donates to charity or offers their time to help people anytime during the year?



So your "logic" is for Americans to kick their feet up and let those folks suffer through the country's worst natural disaster of biblical proportions because we have taxes to pay for it?



What was your "logic" on September 11, 2001? Again, sit back and say like a fool, "we have taxes to take care of that - I donate to the United Way." I guess I shouldn't have helped the pregnant woman who collapsed in an absolute panic on 6th Avenue as we both watched the second tower go down. I should have went on my way and rationalized it because I donate to my charitable causes.



You're a moron. You should really think before you open up your mouth. Anything further you say will only exacerbate how stupid you are.
 
If you were in a disaster, you'd want help. I have good friends stationed in New Orleans who serve our country. They have lost everything! Do they not need help?



Our very own JDookie and former members of our moderator staff live in NOLA. My Aunt and Uncle live in NOLA, too. I suppose they don't need help or compassion, right?



Those who can give, should give. Taxes don't account for these kinds of disasters. Good citizens do!



BTW: You have no freedom of speech rights here. The Constitution of the United States of America grants you freedom of speech as a citizen. That’s a political right and has nothing to do with private property. This is private property. Your attitude in this time of need and compassion is not welcome discussion.



You are kindly invited to no longer participate.







LiquidCesium said:
personally i feel if you are dumb enough to live in a city that's 60' below sea level... sinks each year.... is lower than a lake... and is made out of a swamp..... you had it coming





not to sound cold hearted





also i feel there is no need to send them extra relief money or funds in this time of need.... if it takes a disaster to make people genous and helping other, then were in bad times people. That's worse than doing nothing at all... it's like trying to make up for doing nothing all the rest of the time...



Personally since i've had a job i've been donating 5% of my check before taxes to the united way every single week (and i don't write it off either)



We have taxes in this country for a reason... to help when stuff like this happens.... guilt tripping me and my family saying it's the good thing to do is low



People down south say i'm crazy for living in maine because i have snow storms and blizzards.... yah... well no bliddard is gonna knock my house down or kill me





sorry for the rant... i posted this in the "i donated" thread and a mod deleted it.... land of the free indeed
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This is a prime example of what is wrong with our country. The citizens expect the gov. to spoon feed them, protect them, and wipe their ***.



The people rule this land, the gov. works for us.



I went through 2 hurricanes last year. The storm is the EASY part, trust me.



A person isnt defined by what he does when things are going good, he is defined by his actions when things go bad.



It is also silly to assume everyone in a major city has A: a vehicle, and B: Money.



Alot of them live day to day using public transport. It might be hard for alot of people here to understand what being really broke is. No one is going to offer thousands of people free rides, and free rooms as a massive storm is coming.



I have little sympathy for people in day to day normal situations who refuse to help themselves and expect their burden to be passed onto others, but this situation is in no way manageable for people without the financial ability, or the health.



I hope a couple posters here are just young and havnt had the cruel cold world kick their *** yet.
 
LiquidCesium said:
personally i feel if you are dumb enough to live in a city that's 60' below sea level... sinks each year.... is lower than a lake... and is made out of a swamp..... you had it coming





not to sound cold hearted





also i feel there is no need to send them extra relief money or funds in this time of need.... if it takes a disaster to make people genous and helping other, then were in bad times people. That's worse than doing nothing at all... it's like trying to make up for doing nothing all the rest of the time...







We have taxes in this country for a reason... to help when stuff like this happens.... guilt tripping me and my family saying it's the good thing to do is low



People down south say i'm crazy for living in maine because i have snow storms and blizzards.... yah... well no bliddard is gonna knock my house down or kill me
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remind me when you house blows away or collapses under a big pile of snow to tell you how stupid you are to live there.



Dude, we don;t need your help down here in Alabama. We need you to move to the south pole or somewhere where you won;t have any kids to carry on an attitude like that.



We'll survive. Come on down here and i dout you will tho.
 
LiquidCesium said:
personally i feel if you are dumb enough to live in a city that's 60' below sea level... sinks each year.... is lower than a lake... and is made out of a swamp..... you had it coming





not to sound cold hearted





also i feel there is no need to send them extra relief money or funds in this time of need.... if it takes a disaster to make people genous and helping other, then were in bad times people. That's worse than doing nothing at all... it's like trying to make up for doing nothing all the rest of the time...



Personally since i've had a job i've been donating 5% of my check before taxes to the united way every single week (and i don't write it off either)



We have taxes in this country for a reason... to help when stuff like this happens.... guilt tripping me and my family saying it's the good thing to do is low



People down south say i'm crazy for living in maine because i have snow storms and blizzards.... yah... well no bliddard is gonna knock my house down or kill me





sorry for the rant... i posted this in the "i donated" thread and a mod deleted it.... land of the free indeed
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I feel sorry for your ignorance and cold heartedness but you need to turn on your TV and watch the misery and grief that these people are going through. I myself experienced a similar but not as tremendous event last year because of hurricane Charley and I have to say I've never been so confused in my life. I don't know if you've seen all those people on the streets suffering, some with loved ones dead and deteriorating away, but it is a great hardship that these people are experiencing. If you think that the taxes that you pay are enough to help these people then you've been dreaming. These people have lost everything and now it's up to the people of this country to lend them a hand and if you're not going to do anything then shut up and stop making yourself look childish and stupid. Like some others have said, if you were in those people's situation then you would appreciate the help too.
 
Easy on him guys. He obviously has *never* been in need and didn't know a way to get it. I truly feel sorry for you and your ignorant thoughts!
 
I must say, this thread is going in a very different direction then I thought it would.



Anyway, what I do not understand is the slow response by the US Government and Army. Having all of those people trapped in the dome is absolutely embarrasing for the worlds most powerful country. That should have been resolved in a matter of a day considering the strength of the US Army....



To think of the conditions those people are in ...
 
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