Waterless = the future of the industry?

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Integra81

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I was curious, does anyone else see waterless detailing/car washing as the future of the industry? Seems like outside of the states it has really taken off...
 
I'm willing to bet it will be commonplace with professional detailers in a few years. For the semi-ordinary person (Meaning they don't use a swirl-o-matic), I think traditional washes will stay the norm.
 
With further California-like water/discharge restrictions heading to a state near you, I imagine waterless or low water (like ONR and QEW) will become more popular. And for me, quite honestly, the cost savings of using ONR over buying pressure washer, water tank and trailer and just the cost advantage per use of product ONR has over traditional car wash soaps, I don't know why more pros don't embrace it.
 
I used DP's Waterless Carwash spray on my truck last evening. It was a little dirty with roam grime and bugs. It did amazingly well. I did not see any additional marring or scratching. From the look of my towel, it really cleaned. There were no streaks this morning either. This could get addictive though!!!
 
It will absolutely be the future. keep in mind that not only is it water restrictions, but most people have very HARD and poor water.
 
I can't see ever giving up my hose though. Some times you just need that extra blast to get some of the bad stuff off.
 
Plus, there are some complex areas that I still can't see thorughly getting with a rinseless wash. For example, wheel wells. I know most of it can be gotten, but there are just those "areas" where you can, with a hose, just blast it and get it pretty clean.



Maybe a grimey engine bay? It would be easier to just be able to wash it regularly than find a lot of strange brushes and spend a lot of time wiping everything down.



However, I agree, this sort of thing will have more use in the future. I still haven't tried an ONR wash, mainly because I'm afraid that I'll do something wrong and mar my paint... I don't have a PC so I wouldn't be able to fix it! :soscared:
 
Keep in mind that saying never is a long time. Who thought they would give up a typewriter. Who thought they would ever give up a home phone. Who thought they would ever give up the Big screen for a flat model. Times change with technology.
 
I'm thinking it may become "required" in many more areas, (water restrictions/enviro. concerns/etc.) so it may not even be a choice, but rather something mandatory in the future.

I like using a hose, but also like the option of waterless/rinseless washes if needed.



(As an aside, I think the solvent based wash&wax products like Dri Wash n Guard may disappear as the restrictions become tighter.)
 
Danase said:
I can't see ever giving up my hose though. Some times you just need that extra blast to get some of the bad stuff off.
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Not to mention the safety (lubrication) factor of water.



I feel that over time, QEDs and waterless washes would cause more paint wear than the traditional method. Not saying its fact, just my opinion.
 
Heathenbrewing said:
Not to mention the safety (lubrication) factor of water.



I feel that over time, QEDs and waterless washes would cause more paint wear than the traditional method. Not saying its fact, just my opinion.
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The rinse-less car washes will usually give more lubrication than water anyway.



I actually should have something in in the next couple of weeks that will aid in the cleaning of the car without needing extra water.
 
Heathenbrewing said:
Not to mention the safety (lubrication) factor of water.



I feel that over time, QEDs and waterless washes would cause more paint wear than the traditional method. Not saying its fact, just my opinion.
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That must be the old Roman version of a rinseless wash...anyway...I think we're really talking about rinseless washes that use water (QEW, ONR, DP 4n1) as opposed to waterless washes like Pb's S&W and CG's Pro-Detailer, etc.
 
Danase said:
The rinse-less car washes will usually give more lubrication than water anyway....
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I should have said soapy water. It seems that the sheer volume of soapy water flowing from a hose would offer more protection than the ounces you may be using with a QED.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
That must be the old Roman version of a rinseless wash...anyway...I think we're really talking about rinseless washes that use water (QEW, ONR, DP 4n1) as opposed to waterless washes like Pb's S&W and CG's Pro-Detailer, etc.
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Ahhh....Im still working on all the terminology.



:D
 
Heathenbrewing said:
I should have said soapy water. It seems that the sheer volume of soapy water flowing from a hose would offer more protection than the ounces you may be using with a QED.
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You'd think but you'd be wrong. Seriously. I've been using rinseless washes more than 13 years now and I am far less likely to miss any areas (soapy water can obscure dirty sections so you may miss some areas of the panel) and end up with drying streaks. I feel far safer using ONR on soft paint than I do with traditional washing.



And yes, I was a huge skeptic the first time I tried QEW many years ago.
 
Heathenbrewing said:
Hmm...Im going to have to do some more research on the subject then....interesting.
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Back from the dead thread.....:shocked



Well, for the past few months I have been using ONR and my final thoughts....









A fantastic, safe product! Heres a review I did on another site:



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I am no longer allowed to use a hose when washing my box in my new apartment. After some initial hesitation, I decided to look into Optimum No Rinse. I read reviews of it on the autopia forum, I saw it in action on youtube. I took the plunge.



I have to admit I was very, VERY skeptical about using this product, since I'm so used to the regular hose and multi-bucket wash. But, thanks to the folks on autopia (bunch of brain-washers :D I decided to give it a try. I followed the instructions on the bottle of ONR as they said, 1 oz of ONR into 2 gallons of H2O. You can even make your own QD with it as well. It does cost about $40 for the gallon, shipped, but that will give you about 120 washes. It comes in smallervolumes as well.



I started doing one panel at a time from top to bottom. I couldn't believe the slickness this product has, and how easy was to glide around using a sheepskin mitt. I did the roof, glass, hood, upper and lower sides, then the trunk and bumpers. I do fill up a spray bottle from my wash bucket to spray on the paint as a sort of pre-treatment. I do a single swipe on the lower sides to loosen what I consider the dirtiest part of the car. Then grab another MF sponge for another pass and finish with a clean MF towel to dry. I end up using about 8 MF towels to dry, and I clean and dry 1 section at a time. At the end of all this, it was like it was like when I used my regular 4 bucket method, but with a lot less water, less clean-up and a lot faster!



Final about this product: AWESOME! I still recommend it only when the car is well maintained. I know some people push the limits and beyond of this product, but I'm in the safe side of everything, so I'll only do it on clean to light/medium dirty cars. Highly recommend it and super easy to use! Even my car duster glides over the paint easier now.



Believe me, I am extremely an@l when it comes to protecting my paint. ONR is high quality and 100% safe.
 
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