watered down Klasse SG

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Casebrius

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I've read a couple threads where people claim to have watered down SG and used a spray bottle to apply. Has anyone had positive experiences doing this? Also, has anyone tried the new PB high density foam sponge applicators to apply SG? I'm wondering if a Mr. Clean magic eraser would work for this, it has a pretty tight porosity.
 
Not sure why you would want to water down SG since it takes forever to use it up anyway........of course I am one of "those" that has never had ANY problems with removal or hazing. WOWO or letting it sit overnight and using one damp towel and one dry towel have worked equally (looks and durability) well for me.
 
I don't think SG is water based. I guess you could put it into a spray bottle without diluting it. I brought up the idea long ago and was told that it wouldn't work, though..



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you know, now that i think about it, there was a suggestion made by david b. a while ago to mix 75% ksg with 25% sonus acrylic spritz to make it easier to apply/remove. the acrylic spritz is mostly water, and from what I remember of when i tried this, it worked pretty well.. Maybe there wouldn't be any harm in trying to dilute it?
 
SG says specifically on the bottle "contains no water". So I'd guess adding water isn't the best way to dilute it. I've noticed when I get water on the pad from a body seam, etc, that the SG dries to this very visible white.



And please do not use the Mr Clean Magic Eraser to apply a product to your paint!!!! :soscared:
 
in general, the more "open celled" a foam is, the more abrasive it is. I know foam composition also matters. This said, the eraser is a tight celled foam. I haven't tried it, nor do I plan to, I was just curious. I do have an applicator from an ol time wax kit (I think it was ancient duplicolor or something) that I'm going to try next time I seal. It is a VERY dense foam and looks like the poorboys advertised foam.

http://www.autogeek.net/pbpva.html
 
I would highly advise against using a Mr Clean Magic Eraser on your paint. While the eraser is just foam, it is actually pretty abrasive. I use it when cleaning the house and when used on walls, it scuffs up semi-gloss latex paint enough to give it a satin finish. While automotive paint is tougher, it still would not be a good idea nonetheless.
 
So nobody wants to comment more on this watered down SG deal? I read a couple other threads, but they were kinda inconclusive.
 
Casebrius,



I recall reading something about using Sonus Acrylic Spritz rather than water to create a wipe-on/wipe-off mix for SG, but I don't have the time to hunt for it at the moment. You might try searching for "SG* mix spritz" or "Klasse mix spritz" to see what comes up (try variations on those, too).



HTH,

Tort
 
I mixed a batch over 2 months ago with 1 part SG to 4 water ratio. I have not tried it. However, after sitting on the shelf undisturbed since mixing there is no separation at all. SG has to be water soluble.
 
I wonder if its water that causes some of the hazing e.g damp aplicator or woff with damp towel. I have had no hazing if a apply sg with a dry micro pad and imediatly wipe it off with a dry micro fiber towel. the dry wo/wo approach.this is the method that bob faragosso of klasse usa showed me at the sf car show 2002.try it:xyxthumbs
 
Back in the day, I would dilute SG with water 3:1 and apply as a QD every several weeks. It allows you the opportunity refresh the shine without the torment of haze.
 
Knockwurst said:
Back in the day, I would dilute SG with water 3:1 and apply as a QD every several weeks. It allows you the opportunity refresh the shine without the torment of haze.
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this sounds like a great idea although I would think it could only be done over a synthetic LSP. :nixweiss
 
Casebrius said:
this sounds like a great idea although I would think it could only be done over a synthetic LSP. :nixweiss
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Yeah, I definitely would not put this over a 'nuba.
 
I use SG watered down with three parts water as a spritz after every wash to restore the slickness of my two coats of SG. I also use the same mixture to help remove the SG after applying it as per the bottle's instructions. So far I'm pleased with the results. My last 2X SG application beaded like crazy after 8 months of washes (every two weeks) followed by the "spritz".



Like somebody previously said, SG is cheap, so try it and see if you like it. It won't harm you finish.



If you try it, post your results. We may start making believers out of some. Good luck.



And by the way, SG is as water-soluble as milk. It stays in suspension indefinitely.



JB
 
Casebrius said:
So nobody wants to comment more on this watered down SG deal? I read a couple other threads, but they were kinda inconclusive.
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I can tell you that it's water soluble. I've seen that empirically. I don't really see an advantage to watering it down. That makes the already thin layer even thinner.
 
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