Water Spots etched into paint
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The 1995 Toyota Supra has a 3.0 I6 220 bhp @ 5800 rpm, 210 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm, and a 3.0 I6 Turbo @ 320 bhp.
Don't know about the firebird though
Don't know about the firebird though
Really! For some reason I thought that the Supra would put out a lot more hp. Anyway, how would you all rate these cars in terms of fastest from 0-60 or 0-100. Feel free to pick the best year for each car.
1. Toyota Supra
2. Nissan 300 ZX Twin Turbo
3. Mitsubishi 3000 GT Twin Turbo
4. 97 Chevy Camaro
5. Current model Firebird.
Thanks as I thought this might be a bit of fun. Laters
1. Toyota Supra
2. Nissan 300 ZX Twin Turbo
3. Mitsubishi 3000 GT Twin Turbo
4. 97 Chevy Camaro
5. Current model Firebird.
Thanks as I thought this might be a bit of fun. Laters
Well Don if you are looking for the fastest car in the 1/4 mile thats bone stock then a 02 Trans AM 6-Speed would be it.
However when it comes to other areas a 94-95 Supra TT would no doubt be your best bet.
As for the 300zx and 3000GT count them out. I've owned a 92 300ZX and it's not quite what you would expect. I have driven 3kgt TTs and they are awesome off thge line but after about 70mph the fun is over.
So that leaves us with 3 cars.
97 Camaro
02 TA
94-95 Supra
Now the 02 TA is an awesome car no doubt. However insurance will be as much of a beast as the car is. However if thats not a concern then it's a great deal. The car has awesome straight line performance and it can be made to handle excellent but it will cost you a few thousand dollars. Also the stock brakes will need work. If it was me I would count this car out of the choices basically because it will cost you a bundle to purcahse a brand new one and modify it and pay insurance.
Now we have two choices the 97 Camaro and the Supra. 97 Z28s 6-Speeds are bargins! You can find them at excellent prices right now. They are a few years old so insurance isn't going to outright break you up. I just sold a 95 Convertible and insurance on it was only $90 a month for a 19-Yr old. Anyways though the LT1 is an excellent engine that can stand 150k or more of performance driving and abuse before a rebuild (with proper maintnence of course) they are a lot cheaper to modify then the 98+ LS1s and to me the LT1 cars feel a lot better to drive. The torque on LT1s comes into play at a much lower RPM then the LS1 so on the street the LT1 feels really fast. If you get a 6-Speed and know how to drive it you can hand right with a new Trans AM LS1 Automatic. However the interior build quality of these cars are kind of low but definitaly not as bad as people make them out to be. Who needs a perfect interior in a performance car anyways? Basically though you can do about $1500 in suspension and brake upgrades to this car then about $2,000 in engine and trans mods and run with pretty much anything not totally exotic.
Now to the Supra, this car has excellent brakes and suspension from the factory. The build quality is excellent and their resale value is high. I have never seen a car respond as good to engine mods as these cars do. Install a full performance exhaust, a K&N and a boost controller and you have a 400HP rocket on your hands that has handling and braking to match. About the only disadvantge I can think of to these cars are 1: If proper maintnence has not be done you could have major problems with the turbos and such. 2: If the engine needs rebuilt you are looking at a good chunk of money!
The Supra is an all around performer with excellent reliability. But the fact is it is a turbo car and it does like to be wound out to get the most out of it. If you never go over 70mph then the car is not for you.
Basically what do you want to do with the car?
If you want to be one of the baddest cars on the street then the Supra would be your best bet if you have loads of money to dump into it.
If you want a fast car that you don't have to be afraid of beating the heck out of (cheaper parts prices) then get a 97 Z-28 6-Speed and do a few mods. The Z-28 will be funner on the street because you have no turbo lag. Just stomp the pedal and take off. Plus if the car breaks parts are easy to get.
Heres what I would do:
Find a 97 Z-28 6-Speed with 20k-40k miles on it. Get the following:
Hooker long tube headers - $380-400
Flowmaster Cat-Back exhaust - $240-250
K&N Filter - $35-40
B&M Ripper Shifter - $150-175
That will get you a decent start. From then on the sky is the limit. You could do with some nitrous if you like to drag race or go with heads and a performance cam if you just want street performance. Or you could do suspension and brake work (Hotchkis makes suspension stuff to make this car pull over 1G) if you want auto-x performance and things like that.
Just my .02 cents
However when it comes to other areas a 94-95 Supra TT would no doubt be your best bet.
As for the 300zx and 3000GT count them out. I've owned a 92 300ZX and it's not quite what you would expect. I have driven 3kgt TTs and they are awesome off thge line but after about 70mph the fun is over.
So that leaves us with 3 cars.
97 Camaro
02 TA
94-95 Supra
Now the 02 TA is an awesome car no doubt. However insurance will be as much of a beast as the car is. However if thats not a concern then it's a great deal. The car has awesome straight line performance and it can be made to handle excellent but it will cost you a few thousand dollars. Also the stock brakes will need work. If it was me I would count this car out of the choices basically because it will cost you a bundle to purcahse a brand new one and modify it and pay insurance.
Now we have two choices the 97 Camaro and the Supra. 97 Z28s 6-Speeds are bargins! You can find them at excellent prices right now. They are a few years old so insurance isn't going to outright break you up. I just sold a 95 Convertible and insurance on it was only $90 a month for a 19-Yr old. Anyways though the LT1 is an excellent engine that can stand 150k or more of performance driving and abuse before a rebuild (with proper maintnence of course) they are a lot cheaper to modify then the 98+ LS1s and to me the LT1 cars feel a lot better to drive. The torque on LT1s comes into play at a much lower RPM then the LS1 so on the street the LT1 feels really fast. If you get a 6-Speed and know how to drive it you can hand right with a new Trans AM LS1 Automatic. However the interior build quality of these cars are kind of low but definitaly not as bad as people make them out to be. Who needs a perfect interior in a performance car anyways? Basically though you can do about $1500 in suspension and brake upgrades to this car then about $2,000 in engine and trans mods and run with pretty much anything not totally exotic.
Now to the Supra, this car has excellent brakes and suspension from the factory. The build quality is excellent and their resale value is high. I have never seen a car respond as good to engine mods as these cars do. Install a full performance exhaust, a K&N and a boost controller and you have a 400HP rocket on your hands that has handling and braking to match. About the only disadvantge I can think of to these cars are 1: If proper maintnence has not be done you could have major problems with the turbos and such. 2: If the engine needs rebuilt you are looking at a good chunk of money!
The Supra is an all around performer with excellent reliability. But the fact is it is a turbo car and it does like to be wound out to get the most out of it. If you never go over 70mph then the car is not for you.
Basically what do you want to do with the car?
If you want to be one of the baddest cars on the street then the Supra would be your best bet if you have loads of money to dump into it.
If you want a fast car that you don't have to be afraid of beating the heck out of (cheaper parts prices) then get a 97 Z-28 6-Speed and do a few mods. The Z-28 will be funner on the street because you have no turbo lag. Just stomp the pedal and take off. Plus if the car breaks parts are easy to get.
Heres what I would do:
Find a 97 Z-28 6-Speed with 20k-40k miles on it. Get the following:
Hooker long tube headers - $380-400
Flowmaster Cat-Back exhaust - $240-250
K&N Filter - $35-40
B&M Ripper Shifter - $150-175
That will get you a decent start. From then on the sky is the limit. You could do with some nitrous if you like to drag race or go with heads and a performance cam if you just want street performance. Or you could do suspension and brake work (Hotchkis makes suspension stuff to make this car pull over 1G) if you want auto-x performance and things like that.
Just my .02 cents
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' >
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by 69-912 [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Well Don if you are looking for the fastest car in the 1/4 mile thats bone stock then a 02 Trans AM 6-Speed would be it.
However when it comes to other areas a 94-95 Supra TT would no doubt be your best bet.
As for the 300zx and 3000GT count them out. I've owned a 92 300ZX and it's not quite what you would expect. I have driven 3kgt TTs and they are awesome off thge line but after about 70mph the fun is over.
So that leaves us with 3 cars.
97 Camaro
02 TA
94-95 Supra
Now the 02 TA is an awesome car no doubt. However insurance will be as much of a beast as the car is. However if thats not a concern then it's a great deal. The car has awesome straight line performance and it can be made to handle excellent but it will cost you a few thousand dollars. Also the stock brakes will need work. If it was me I would count this car out of the choices basically because it will cost you a bundle to purcahse a brand new one and modify it and pay insurance.
Now we have two choices the 97 Camaro and the Supra. 97 Z28s 6-Speeds are bargins! You can find them at excellent prices right now. They are a few years old so insurance isn't going to outright break you up. I just sold a 95 Convertible and insurance on it was only $90 a month for a 19-Yr old. Anyways though the LT1 is an excellent engine that can stand 150k or more of performance driving and abuse before a rebuild (with proper maintnence of course) they are a lot cheaper to modify then the 98+ LS1s and to me the LT1 cars feel a lot better to drive. The torque on LT1s comes into play at a much lower RPM then the LS1 so on the street the LT1 feels really fast. If you get a 6-Speed and know how to drive it you can hand right with a new Trans AM LS1 Automatic. However the interior build quality of these cars are kind of low but definitaly not as bad as people make them out to be. Who needs a perfect interior in a performance car anyways? Basically though you can do about $1500 in suspension and brake upgrades to this car then about $2,000 in engine and trans mods and run with pretty much anything not totally exotic.
Now to the Supra, this car has excellent brakes and suspension from the factory. The build quality is excellent and their resale value is high. I have never seen a car respond as good to engine mods as these cars do. Install a full performance exhaust, a K&N and a boost controller and you have a 400HP rocket on your hands that has handling and braking to match. About the only disadvantge I can think of to these cars are 1: If proper maintnence has not be done you could have major problems with the turbos and such. 2: If the engine needs rebuilt you are looking at a good chunk of money!
The Supra is an all around performer with excellent reliability. But the fact is it is a turbo car and it does like to be wound out to get the most out of it. If you never go over 70mph then the car is not for you.
Basically what do you want to do with the car?
If you want to be one of the baddest cars on the street then the Supra would be your best bet if you have loads of money to dump into it.
If you want a fast car that you don't have to be afraid of beating the heck out of (cheaper parts prices) then get a 97 Z-28 6-Speed and do a few mods. The Z-28 will be funner on the street because you have no turbo lag. Just stomp the pedal and take off. Plus if the car breaks parts are easy to get.
Heres what I would do:
Find a 97 Z-28 6-Speed with 20k-40k miles on it. Get the following:
Hooker long tube headers - $380-400
Flowmaster Cat-Back exhaust - $240-250
K&N Filter - $35-40
B&M Ripper Shifter - $150-175
That will get you a decent start. From then on the sky is the limit. You could do with some nitrous if you like to drag race or go with heads and a performance cam if you just want street performance. Or you could do suspension and brake work (Hotchkis makes suspension stuff to make this car pull over 1G) if you want auto-x performance and things like that.
Just my .02 cents [/b]</blockquote>
Also, a 3.55:1 rear end would be helpful as it provides the balance between takeoff and high speed. A lot of Z28s either run the stock gearing or will go to 3.73s
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by 69-912 [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Well Don if you are looking for the fastest car in the 1/4 mile thats bone stock then a 02 Trans AM 6-Speed would be it.
However when it comes to other areas a 94-95 Supra TT would no doubt be your best bet.
As for the 300zx and 3000GT count them out. I've owned a 92 300ZX and it's not quite what you would expect. I have driven 3kgt TTs and they are awesome off thge line but after about 70mph the fun is over.
So that leaves us with 3 cars.
97 Camaro
02 TA
94-95 Supra
Now the 02 TA is an awesome car no doubt. However insurance will be as much of a beast as the car is. However if thats not a concern then it's a great deal. The car has awesome straight line performance and it can be made to handle excellent but it will cost you a few thousand dollars. Also the stock brakes will need work. If it was me I would count this car out of the choices basically because it will cost you a bundle to purcahse a brand new one and modify it and pay insurance.
Now we have two choices the 97 Camaro and the Supra. 97 Z28s 6-Speeds are bargins! You can find them at excellent prices right now. They are a few years old so insurance isn't going to outright break you up. I just sold a 95 Convertible and insurance on it was only $90 a month for a 19-Yr old. Anyways though the LT1 is an excellent engine that can stand 150k or more of performance driving and abuse before a rebuild (with proper maintnence of course) they are a lot cheaper to modify then the 98+ LS1s and to me the LT1 cars feel a lot better to drive. The torque on LT1s comes into play at a much lower RPM then the LS1 so on the street the LT1 feels really fast. If you get a 6-Speed and know how to drive it you can hand right with a new Trans AM LS1 Automatic. However the interior build quality of these cars are kind of low but definitaly not as bad as people make them out to be. Who needs a perfect interior in a performance car anyways? Basically though you can do about $1500 in suspension and brake upgrades to this car then about $2,000 in engine and trans mods and run with pretty much anything not totally exotic.
Now to the Supra, this car has excellent brakes and suspension from the factory. The build quality is excellent and their resale value is high. I have never seen a car respond as good to engine mods as these cars do. Install a full performance exhaust, a K&N and a boost controller and you have a 400HP rocket on your hands that has handling and braking to match. About the only disadvantge I can think of to these cars are 1: If proper maintnence has not be done you could have major problems with the turbos and such. 2: If the engine needs rebuilt you are looking at a good chunk of money!
The Supra is an all around performer with excellent reliability. But the fact is it is a turbo car and it does like to be wound out to get the most out of it. If you never go over 70mph then the car is not for you.
Basically what do you want to do with the car?
If you want to be one of the baddest cars on the street then the Supra would be your best bet if you have loads of money to dump into it.
If you want a fast car that you don't have to be afraid of beating the heck out of (cheaper parts prices) then get a 97 Z-28 6-Speed and do a few mods. The Z-28 will be funner on the street because you have no turbo lag. Just stomp the pedal and take off. Plus if the car breaks parts are easy to get.
Heres what I would do:
Find a 97 Z-28 6-Speed with 20k-40k miles on it. Get the following:
Hooker long tube headers - $380-400
Flowmaster Cat-Back exhaust - $240-250
K&N Filter - $35-40
B&M Ripper Shifter - $150-175
That will get you a decent start. From then on the sky is the limit. You could do with some nitrous if you like to drag race or go with heads and a performance cam if you just want street performance. Or you could do suspension and brake work (Hotchkis makes suspension stuff to make this car pull over 1G) if you want auto-x performance and things like that.
Just my .02 cents
[/b]</blockquote>Also, a 3.55:1 rear end would be helpful as it provides the balance between takeoff and high speed. A lot of Z28s either run the stock gearing or will go to 3.73s
I just bought a 2008 135 BMW, Jet Black (non-metalic) in color. I had done a couple of washes but I could not get rid of water spots on the hood and trunk. So, it's time for a detail. I strip it down using a PC 7424 with White CCS pad and Menzerna Final Polish II. But the water spots are still there. I tried claying with Meguiars clay and polish again. Still there. I assume they are etched into the paint. How can I get rid of them? Step down to a corser pad, say Yellow? I have a few light scratches but no swirls so I wasn't wanting to be too agressive.
Any product that would help?
Any product that would help?
imported_Luster
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If the water spots are in fact etched into the clearcoat, you'll need to go to a more agressive polish. M105/Orange pad or SIP/Orange pad should work nicely. Then finish up with M205 or Menz Final Polish.
Hard water can be brutal on paint!
Hard water can be brutal on paint!
imported_Flash Gordon
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If that doesn't work then twisted wool w/105 via rotary should do the trick. Then finish out with your pc and Menz FP :wizard:
There are times when bo matter what you do there will still be faint trails of the etchings. Kinda depends on how long they have been baking in and what kinda clear you messing with. Unfortunately for you late model BMW clear is some of the hardest IMPO :spy: