Washing and Polishing?

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cenwesi

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Why is it that you have to wash the car right after polishing? before you apply the wax? I was looking at this

Methodology that TOGWT puts out and if you look at #12-13 he said to wash???? Why?

here is the link

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52329&highlight=Menzerna+vs

and here is the list

Surface Preparation:

Using Menzerna Intensive & Final II polishes, Klasse All-In-One wax, Menzerna Finishing Glaze, a Menzerna or Zanio polymer sealant and a Pinnacle Carnauba wax



Methodology

1.Use a pH balanced pre wash treatment (Stage One PreWash) spray two â€â€œthree panels and rise off with low pressure water (this will avoid spay dying and causing water spots) once the vehicle has been pre-treated rinse the entire vehicle with low pressure water.

2.Use a quality car wash shampoo specifically formulated for automotive use, one that contains conditioning lubricants (Menzerna Auto Shampoo) 1.0oz per 2 gallon that enable abrasive particles to rinse off without abrading the paints surface.

3.Rinse vehicle and dry thoroughly to avoid any water spots.

4.Remove any imbedded contaminants with detailing clay (Clay Magicâ„¢ â€ËœBlueâ€â„¢) with a 5:1 solution of (Distilled water/Woolite®)

5.Clean paint film surface with a chemical cleaner / polish (Klasse All-In-One) with a grey / black foam pad, speed # 4.5-.5.0

6.Remove surface imperfections (Menzerna Intensive Polish) 6/10, Orange /White Pad, speed # 3.5-4.0

7.And /or a swirl mark remover (Menzerna Final Polish II , CA 3/10, White Pad, speed # 4.0 - 4.5

8.Final polishing (Menzerna Final Polish II) with a grey / black foam pad, speed # 5.5

9.Check surface condition- by using a fine mist, spray the surface with Isopropyl alcohol (IP)

10.Leave it to dwell for 30-45 seconds before wiping the paint surface with a clean, dry 100% cotton (DF Alpine) towel.

11.For surface imperfection that if removed could compromise the clear coat apply a glaze (12)The use of an electronic Mil gauge (Checkline Model DEF-900) to check the clear coat is highly recommended

12.Apply a final polish / glaze (Menzerna Finish Glaze) with a grey / black foam pad, speed # 5.5

13.Wash paint and dry thoroughly before the application of a polymer sealant (Menzerna FMJ or Zaino Z2PROâ„¢ + ZFX)

14.Apply a low-solvent Carnauba wax last step product (LSP) hand buff surface with a 100% natural cotton (DFâ„¢ Towel) concourse towel

(a) Pinnacle Souverän contains natural oils that provide a deep gloss, and a â€Ëœwet-lookâ€â„¢ to the paint film surface, ideal for Red, Black or Porsche Speed Yellow and dark vehicle colours.

(b)Pinnacle Signature is perfect for metallic painted surfaces and for light colour vehicle paint

15.With a 100% natural cotton (DFâ„¢ Towel) concourse towel buff paint surface lightly once more after 3-4 hours to perfect the shine

JonM
 
Trouble with most polishes is that they tend to leave dust on the paint surface. Washing again ensures that you're dust-free, before you put on the finishing touches.
 
You don't necessarily have to wash after polishing. My process goes like this:



Wash

Clay

Polish (swirl removal)

base for sealant (AIO)

sealant



The AIO, or whatever sealant pre cleaner you use, will take care of whatever oils are on the surface. Washing is not necessary if you are just going to use a paint cleaner anyway. Its like washing after you clay. Since the next step is either polishing or paint cleaning, what is the point of washing? Those streaks from the clay lube will disappear once you hit it with AIO. That's just me though. Remember, there are a thousand ways to skin a cat around here. Everybody has their own advice and their own experience. There is no one 'right way' or 'best way'. There is only what way works best for you.
 
Quote: Why is it that you have to wash the car right after polishing? before you apply the wax? I was looking at this

Methodology that TOGWT puts out and if you look at #12-13 he said to wash???? Why?



I prefer to have a dust free surface to work on and the wash helps eliminate static electricity.



You don't HAVE to wash after polishing; but as this is the university section of the forum and I try to include as much info as possible, the more experienced detailers can omit whatever steps they feel their experience dictates.

JonM
 
Denzil said:
Another alternative is to hit up your car with some QD and a MF towel. That works just as well. :up
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This is also an option as long as the QD it doesn't cotain oils/wax. The idea here was to produce a 'clean' as possible surface for the polymer.

JonM
 
D3mon said:
Trouble with most polishes is that they tend to leave dust on the paint surface. Washing again ensures that you're dust-free, before you put on the finishing touches.
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:up Especially with 3M FCRC, that stuff dusts every which way, but its a hell of a product.
 
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