Using ONR (or substitute) in a volume operation? (Longtime member with a new venture!)

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whitejavaS500

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Hey everyone, 


 


Long time no post. 


 


So, after trying car sales, software sales, and more car sales, my heart has led me back here. I am fortune enough to have an investor that is also a detailing fanatic. 


 


We are looking to start the "Whole Foods" of a car wash business. As close as I can get to autopian stantards while still being profitable. This obviously needs to be eco friendly to attract the right people, and as you know water usage plays a major factor. I am curious if any of you have used ONR or a substitute in a volume operation, what actual product/wash media/methods you are using, time/costs per vehicle, and any other input you might have. 


 


I plan on reading more into what some have you have done, and thanks in advance for any input!!


 


Ben 
 
A low water regiment can play a huge benefit in any detailing operation. Especially a volume one. It takes less time, less product, less water and less effort to clean most cars which means you earn more money. 
 
Java, what you are thinking of is definitely plausible.


I use ONR with wax for my volume business.


 


While my clients are not interested in water use,


they are mainly interested in cost.


 


Where the ONR method shines is no cross contamination.


When you power wash, you are blasting the dirt up into the air


and over the entire area.


 


 


In my opinion, the best use of ONR in a volume scenario


is called the Gary Dean Wash Method.  While this does use


up more microfibers, it definitely accomplishes being closer to


the "whole foods" quality.


 


Volume business is incredibly subjective to your area, plus your method.


 


In my business, I work in groups of 3, and we try to ONR a vehicle and


clean its wheels in about 6 minutes.  Wages are earned based on how


quickly the 3 man group can finish vehicles.  To me, this is motivation.


It also allows someone to "take it easy" and still earn decent money.


 


There is no need to hurry 100% of the time.  Sometimes you want to take


it easy, listen to music, and have a funny conversation.


 


There are many different things that you can do for the volume business,


it just depends on how much work you are willing to do.


 


When doing ONR, you must realize that when the paint gets warm, it is


more difficult to buff off.  This is especially true for black paint.  For this reason,


I have negotiated being able to do cars on lots at night.  This gives me a cool


time of the day, when I am out of the sun and earning good money.


 


 


 


Ben, if you want to do volume business, do not let others dissuade you.


There are many that say that it can't work, when in reality it is because they


don't want to work hard to make it work. 


 


If you really want to make good money in the volume business, you should look


into doing RV and motorhome washes.  I make MUCH more money doing that,


than doing cars.  But, cars are what keeps me the most busy.


 


Good Luck, if you have any questions Feel Free to send me a message.


 


I am currently a volume detailer, and dealing with many of the hardships that


comes with market perspective and perceptions of what a "detail" is. 
 
WilliamWallacesWashAndWax said:
Java, what you are thinking of is definitely plausible.


I use ONR with wax for my volume business.


 


While my clients are not interested in water use,


they are mainly interested in cost.


 


Where the ONR method shines is no cross contamination.


When you power wash, you are blasting the dirt up into the air


and over the entire area.


 


 


In my opinion, the best use of ONR in a volume scenario


is called the Gary Dean Wash Method.  While this does use


up more microfibers, it definitely accomplishes being closer to


the "whole foods" quality.


 


Volume business is incredibly subjective to your area, plus your method.


 


In my business, I work in groups of 3, and we try to ONR a vehicle and


clean its wheels in about 6 minutes.  Wages are earned based on how


quickly the 3 man group can finish vehicles.  To me, this is motivation.


It also allows someone to "take it easy" and still earn decent money.


 


There is no need to hurry 100% of the time.  Sometimes you want to take


it easy, listen to music, and have a funny conversation.


 


There are many different things that you can do for the volume business,


it just depends on how much work you are willing to do.


 


When doing ONR, you must realize that when the paint gets warm, it is


more difficult to buff off.  This is especially true for black paint.  For this reason,


I have negotiated being able to do cars on lots at night.  This gives me a cool


time of the day, when I am out of the sun and earning good money.


 


 


 


Ben, if you want to do volume business, do not let others dissuade you.


There are many that say that it can't work, when in reality it is because they


don't want to work hard to make it work. 


 


If you really want to make good money in the volume business, you should look


into doing RV and motorhome washes.  I make MUCH more money doing that,


than doing cars.  But, cars are what keeps me the most busy.


 


Good Luck, if you have any questions Feel Free to send me a message.


 


I am currently a volume detailer, and dealing with many of the hardships that


comes with market perspective and perceptions of what a "detail" is. 
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William what is the name of your company?
 
Here's the thing......most volume detail businesses use bulk chemical companies like Auto Magic, Carbrite, Malco & Ardex. These companies don't offer any low water alternatives so these shops are left in the dark. This in turns leaves money on the table for the chemical companies and doesn't advance a detail shop into the 21th century way detailing. 
 
There are other waterless wash agents (Duragloss, Meguiars, etc) but ONR alone offers something thats more advantageous vs conventional washes that saves time/labor/etc over the final pennies.
 
ONR makes my pre-delivery cleans very quick and effective (for cars I've already detailed on dealership lots). I can rinse with a pressure washer, ONR wash w/sealant applied during drying, dress tires, trim, wells, and remove window stickers and vac/wipedown an interior in 25min on average. You have to work quick and efficiently to complete this process while not marring the paint but it produces a great final result (FAR better than the typical lot-attendant wash) and can be a good money maker.
 
ONR washes changed everything for me. I do tons of wash onlys and all are done with ONR. I prewash with my pressure washer doing wheels, tires, and body spray down. I can do 10-12 vehicles this way with just 60 gallons of water.


The only reason I do a complete spray down before ONR is because of the area I'm in. Very dusty and muddy. Lots of unpaved gravel roads. Job security!


With a helper, I can do an F-250 crew cab, start to finish, In 22 mins. That's hand dressing the tires and fender wells.


The major time saver is being able to do more cars with less water resulting in not having to go and fill up again.
 
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