Used the rotary, just some thoughts...

Ok, so this past weekend I decided to try to the rotary again. I have only used it 4 times before yesterday in two years.



Products:

• Dewalt rotary

• 3M Waffle polishing pads

• Meguiars buffing pads

• 3M Perfect It-III compound, machine glaze, finishing glaze



The car was an eight year old Firebird with 85,000+ miles, it was pretty beat (cracked, scraped, emblems peeling, dash cracked, doors cracked, stained). I detailed the car inside an auto shop with excellent lighting. Long story short, I spent two hours on the hood alone. Under the garage lighting there were many paint defects that I wasn’t able to completely remove with a rotary, buffing pad and compound, even after two applications (followed the pyramid scheme) followed by the proper weaker polishes. Eventually I got frustrated and decided to just shine up the polished hood and look at it in the sun. Low and behold there wasn’t even a single scratch, swirl or defect. It looked liked something from the “pro before/after� gallery. I took pictures of the hood directly in the sun and I couldn’t find any defects.



I see a lot of people from the “pro� section who have detailed cars as bad as the Firebird I did. Their cars look as good as the Firebird outside but when inspected inside under critical lighting, the paint looks just as good it does under the sun. My question is; is there a limit of correction you can apply to paint before it needs to be wet sanded or your applying time for diminishing results? Was I using too weak of a pad/product? Did I not apply enough pressure?



Some of the good things about the rotary I noticed.

• You learn how to hold and move it pretty quickly.

• With a normal sized pad it’s not that bad with curved panels.

• Despite the damage it may do, with common sense and patience you can remove a great deal of defects without burning the clear.



Some of the bad things I noticed.

• The rotary is a little heavier than the Cyclo but I’ll get used to it.

• Once the pad gets saturated with product it gets jumpy and sticks, I had to use a lot less product and mist the panel.

• I needed to work the product in a lot, to the point where it hazed quickly and left little to no residue as I passed the panel. It made removal a lot easier and left better results.

• The rotary makes a mess, expect to wash the car after (or tape it up).



I don’t know, I had mixed emotions with the machine. Is this something that be more effective with more experience or did I over exaggerate the effectiveness of this machine?
 
Here are some before/after shots. The before pic's came out pretty bad (flash) so it just seemed like I was taking pictures of an orange car even though it's red. I found one decent before picture. I tried to get different angles outside.



















 
I meet up with Joe and he is all set now....



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GM paint is pretty hard, you do have to get at least somewhat aggressive to remove anything other than light swirls.



Best advice I can give you is to keep using it.
 
Your right with the hardness of the clear, it was pretty brutal considering what I was used to. Once your in the right mindset it makes things easier.



The rotary is the new best thing, I'm going to try to use it again next weekend and detail my girlfriends Subaru. The car is new so I'll start with a soft pad and some mild polish.



BTW, that car is 7 years old, 90,000 miles.
 
Scottwax said:
GM paint is pretty hard, you do have to get at least somewhat aggressive to remove anything other than light swirls.



Best advice I can give you is to keep using it.



Ya SSR-3 and the black wool edge pad... it was hard hard stuff....



but it all worked out
 
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