Used Menzerna SIP and 106FF BUT..........

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FAZZL

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Swirls still 100% gone.



I used SIP with orange LC pad followed by 106FF with white pad. On a Silver 1999 E320 Benz. Before the swirls were full circles like spiderweb now there not 100% circles but lines and crap. Its pissing me off iono *** to do. Im using a PC btw.
 
You are probably looking at scratches and other deeper marring. This would be decision time , do you want to take it any further. Remember, rounding off scratches will be very hard to see from about 5 feet away and you save the clear. Try a bad panel to see if you are happy with the result.
 
Hmm, maybe your right. The car is about 7.5 years old now and over half of that time it was washed with a sponge so it may be just bad scratches. Silver hides the imperfections really well, The car looks great in the sun but only at night at some angles can you see the scratches/ swirls. Maybe the swirls are gone and whats left are scratches.. Thanks.
 
A rotary will take those out. A pc does not have the forced rotation to remove deeper marks, especially on hard paint. Just make a couple more passes of each and they will go away.
 
Swirls are not circles but rather a bunch of straight lines in random directions. The lines that remain are just deeper than the ones that are gone.



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Not even in the sun?



Put the car in the garage, close the garage door and turn off all the other lights in the garage. Then use your brinkman or whatever light you use with the camera.
 
FAZZL said:
Swirls still 100% gone.



I used SIP with orange LC pad followed by 106FF with white pad. On a Silver 1999 E320 Benz. Before the swirls were full circles like spiderweb now there not 100% circles but lines and crap. Its pissing me off iono *** to do. Im using a PC btw.
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i'm in pretty much the same boat as you. i just did a round of SIP w/ orange lc pad @ pc6 on my '03 black m3 yesterday. it took out all the swirls but i still have plenty of those light scratches everywhere. you dont really notice them unless they are under the halogens (didnt take it out in the sun yet) but i know they are there so it bothers me, heh. haven't gotten to the 106ff yet, i was planning on doing that today after work (also with the white lc pad).



if rydawg recommends to give a few more passes, then i'll definitely give the hood a few more with the SIP before the 106ff and see how that turns out... good luck with yours, at least it is silver and not as noticeable!
 
You've got two great products there but you're still missing the most important part that Rydawg brought up previously (A ROTORY) . In order to polish properly, think of it this way. Hopefully this will help you understand polishing more fully. When you apply the polish at first it looks thick, kinda like suntan lotion. When you apply it to the car it looks cloudy as you spread it. You need to use a rotory to generate enough heat to break down the polish so it looks clear by the time your done polishing. Kinda like there's a thin coat of vaseline on the surface. If you're wiping off the polish before it looks like this then you're probably leaving scratches from insufficient polish break down. I used a PC for two years before I got up the nerve to try a rotory. I never should have waited so long. I had spent so much money trying every product out there and what I ultimately discovered was that it wasn't the products that were preventing me from achieving awesome results, it was the tool I was using to apply them. Buy a rotory, even if it's a cheapo from Chicago Electric for thirty bucks. Keep the speeds slow at first and watch how heat plays a huge role in proper polishing. Don't be affraid of it. I learned how to use a rotory on my fifty thousand dollar black corvette and you know what? It came out perfect with no holograms, buffer trails or anything else! One more tip, use only a tiny amount of the SIP like the size of two kernels of corn and work in small areas. If you have any questions PM me.



Patrick
 
yep, a PC can't remove deeper defects regardless of the product used. I've removed spiderwebbing and wool pad swirls in one pass with a rotary and wasn't able to accomplish that in several excrutiatingly slow passes with the PC. The PC can only do so much.
 
gmblack3a said:
Not even in the sun?
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Marring has to be mighty awful to show on silver in the sun ;)



Put the car in the garage, close the garage door and turn off all the other lights in the garage. Then use your brinkman or whatever light you use with the camera.
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Yeah, that's the ticket :xyxthumbs I'd use the camera's flash or a bare incandescent bulb. Maybe there's one in the garage door opener's housing- take off the translucent plastic cover (that hides the bulb) and see. If so, leave the cover off and you'll be able to spot marring quite clearly with it.



wannafbody- Slightly different take on that: you can't do it *in a reasonable amount of time*. I can get RIDS out of the Audis by PC if I spend forever and a day; I can even do inaccessible areas by hand. But man does it take *FOREVER* ;) And who wants to spend hours on end working one panel?
 
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