UPP X 2 durability UPDATE!

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breakneckvtec

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Ok so my car was outfitted with UPP X 2 applied exactly 3 months ago.



The weather in NJ has been consistently crappy. I washed the car for the first time in about 1.5 months this past Thursday. IMMEDIATELY following, thanks detailing gods, it rained hard till just this morning fairly constistently.



I am happy to report, the car is still beading like crazy. There is defenite surface tension. When driving on the highway the beads just roll up to smaller beads and then fly off the car. A look over the hood while driving shows the beads rolling appearing almost suspended. To me its a clear sign of protection.



Slickness is down. I mean I keep the car well so its decently slick but not at all like when UPP was first applied.



I would also like to add that when I washed the car the water sheeted, no beading at all. I almost thought the protection was gone. Then the rain came and it was very clear the protection was still there. :xyxthumbs



Also, FWIW the car was COVERED in road grime, the rinse bucket was nearly black when I was done washing. However once done the car still looked like it had just got waxed. I am impressed with UPP so far.
 
I have heard the exact opposite many times about UPP. I wonder if they changed the formulation. I like the look no doubt, but I have heard multiple times you get about 3 weeks of bead if your lucky. Did you have an AIO base or something that would add more protection?

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=47432



I like trying new things and I'm commited to trying the new formulation of TC because they send it to you for 5 bucks w/no shipping charges, does anyone sell small samples of UPP? I'd rather pay or trade because I don't accept free samples, except when they through it in with an order, I admit freebies scew my own judgement.
 
Paul,



wasn't it you who found that topping UPP with a carnuba reduces the slickness? You'll have to post back the results using the Paste Glaz instead of the S100.



Does UPP have any cleaners in it? What kind of product is it? Acrylic, polymers, carnuba based, etc.
 
I have seen UPP go three months in the summer here in Memphis. It probably could have gone longer, but I reapplied it. The owner washed every other week with blue coral wash and QD'ed maybe once or twice with meguiars retail quik detailer.



I have it right now on my fiance's axiom. At about 6 weeks it is still going very strong. I have Qd'ed twice with mothers showtime.



I have v2 UPP.
 
I've had no problems getting an easy 3-4 months of beading, decent slickness and good appearance with UPP. It may even bead a bit longer but most of my regulars don't go much past 3 months. I do normally use AIO as a base.



I'd been using UPP on my own car and have been pretty happy with it, but I went back to carnauba based products since UPP isn't as liquidy deep looking. If I didn't have a black car, though, I probably would have stuck with UPP.
 
MongooseGA said:
Paul,



wasn't it you who found that topping UPP with a carnuba reduces the slickness? You'll have to post back the results using the Paste Glaz instead of the S100.



Does UPP have any cleaners in it? What kind of product is it? Acrylic, polymers, carnuba based, etc.
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Yes...I applied #16 (not S100) over UPPx2 and the slickness was reduced. I then applied UPP over it again (just as an experiment) and it was slick again for about a week, then it got rough. I couldn't stand it anymore, so that's why I redid my car again.

UPP does not have any cleaners in it as far as I know.



From the UPP bottle:



FourStar Ultimate Paint Protection uses the latest polymer technology. This unique formula consists of blending modified polymers which create a cross linking bond. This process produces a durable protection that lasts wash after wash. Oxidized or neglected paint will first require use of FourStar Ultimate Paint Cleanser.
 
burlyq: Just as an update to my thread that you referenced. It has been downright nasty here in Ohio almost every day since I posted on 12/6 after applying a fresh coat (yes only one coat) of UPP to my Audi. I have to say that as of a wash last night the product is still beading very well at this point. It's still too early to determine any durability but I'm not coming to a final conclusion on durability for me for a few more weeks. I'm determined to let the product sit with just UPP for a few more weeks before trying anything else in an effort to disprove my first go-around with durability on my car as there were far too many variables that I couldn't control while I was out of town.



Andy
 
Just chipping with my $0.02...



I decided on AIO/UPPx2 for the winter and so far (about 6 weeks), UPP still looks great and beads quite well.



We've gotten a lot of crap dumped on us here in MI the last few weeks but UPP has handled it all very well. One thing I do notice is that when I take the car for a rinse at the coin-op (rinse only, low pressure) almost all of the dirt slides right off and there's very little left I have to take off with a QEW wash. It's quite impressive really... more so than most other sealants I've tried so far.



As far as exactly how long it will last in our cold, mushy, dirty, over salted winter, I probably won't know for sure as I plan to apply another 2 coats in January (the joys of having a heated garage :) )
 
Burlyq said:
I have heard the exact opposite many times about UPP. I wonder if they changed the formulation. I like the look no doubt, but I have heard multiple times you get about 3 weeks of bead if your lucky. Did you have an AIO base or something that would add more protection?

http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=47432



I like trying new things and I'm commited to trying the new formulation of TC because they send it to you for 5 bucks w/no shipping charges, does anyone sell small samples of UPP? I'd rather pay or trade because I don't accept free samples, except when they through it in with an order, I admit freebies scew my own judgement.
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Well, as I stated when washing it I thought there was nothing left protection wise. The water was flat and sheeted off. However when the rain came, it was bead city. This seems to be a characteristic of most polymers. You could tell by looking at the beads roll over the paint while driving that there was definite surface tension prevalant. A clear indication of protection.



FWIW my girls civic and friends Golf both have UPP X 2 for about the same amount of time and are all still beading. I used no base, polished and went right to UPP.
 
Scottwax said:
I've had no problems getting an easy 3-4 months of beading, decent slickness and good appearance with UPP. It may even bead a bit longer but most of my regulars don't go much past 3 months. I do normally use AIO as a base.



I'd been using UPP on my own car and have been pretty happy with it, but I went back to carnauba based products since UPP isn't as liquidy deep looking. If I didn't have a black car, though, I probably would have stuck with UPP.
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Scott, what's you opinion looks-wise for black between UPP and carnuba based proucts such as EX and Souveran? I haven't had a chance to compare and your comment triggered my curiosity. :)
 
T. Perinne said:
Scott, what's you opinion looks-wise for black between UPP and carnuba based proucts such as EX and Souveran? I haven't had a chance to compare and your comment triggered my curiosity. :)
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UPP just looked too 'hard' to me on my car. Almost like a candy coating. Carnauba based products may not last as long or be as slick (although CMW QDed with Quikshine after 24 hours is pretty damn slick!) but they have a deeper, softer look. My car has a lot of curves, so soft and deep looks better. One something angular, like an Escalade, you may like UPP or EX-P more. It all comes down to personal preference. :nixweiss
 
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