UPP bonding with RMG or VM?

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percynjpn

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Hi Folks,



I've just bought RMG and VM for the first time (from PAKSHAK-great service as always!), which I plan to use under UPP as the LSP on my gold metallic Silvia. Has anyone had any issues with water-based UPP bonding with those two poducts?



Thank you.





Todd
 
UPP on any type of glaze will not sit great. It will sit well, but not as it is intended.......Durability will definetely be compromised...

I use UPP quite a bit and never use a glaze prior to applying......Just my own individual experience.....
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Water-based? UPP is one of the most solventy-smelling products I have!
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As far as I know, it is in fact water-based, though that doesn't mean it doesn't contain solvents.
 
percynjpn said:
As far as I know, it is in fact water-based, though that doesn't mean it doesn't contain solvents.
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Oddly, they don't seem to say much about this anymore at the PAC site (they let the $24.95 price speak for itself--when did this stuff get so expensive?), over at Autogeek they say "The water-based Four Star formula..." but also "The rich Tri-Polymer formula is refined with mineral spirits". I don't know at what point something changes over from water-based to solvent-based, but compared to say, NXT, EX-P, SG, it's got quite a solvent odor.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
. I don't know at what point something changes over from water-based to solvent-based, but compared to say, NXT, EX-P, SG, it's got quite a solvent odor.
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I understand what you mean; I suspect that some manufacturers may choose what the official "base" is by what they think their customers would prefer (for bonding issues, etc), even though it may not actually be the "base" component. Of course, with many products it's obvious.
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
UPP on any type of glaze will not sit great. It will sit well, but not as it is intended.......Durability will definetely be compromised...

I use UPP quite a bit and never use a glaze prior to applying......Just my own individual experience.....
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Now Patrick, would this be true with all sealants or just UPP, in your opinion.

I never knew that about UPP; thanks for the info :xyxthumbs
 
I've used that combo before (RMG/UPP) and was pretty impressed with it. I also had Optimum Polish/UPP on my car and didn't see much of a difference durability wise between the two. They both were OK.
 
LangMan37 said:
Now Patrick, would this be true with all sealants or just UPP, in your opinion.

I never knew that about UPP; thanks for the info :xyxthumbs
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Think of like making a PB&J sandwich. Lay down your jelly on one piece of bread and then try to lay the PB down on top of it.
 
SpoiledMan said:
John, what did you do for maintenance while you had that combo? QD, QEW??
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Just washes, I don't use QEW, and rarely use QD, :o



I actually used the RMG/UPP on my uncle's work pickup truck (2001 F-350 super duty). I really don't think it was washed too often because he wasn't using it for work, he had an older F-250 that was on its last leg during the time. If it did get washed it was through a tunnel wash. My RSX got the Optimum Polish/UPP treatment the same week I did his truck, and the only thing I did was washes during the time I had it on. As I said both combos seemed to hold up pretty well for a good 1.5-2 month. My uncle lives 2 blocks away from me, and both cars we're parked outside all the time. I'm also always at my cousin's house so I can monitor the combos I have on their cars.
 
My experience was that after using the combo the paint was slick and beautiful! After ONE wash with QEW everything stuck to the paint and slickness was history.
 
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