Upgrading to better wax..

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porterror

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Well. I've been waxing and getting addicted to keeping my car ultra clean now. I got my girlfriend and family thinking i'm obsessed. So just like to thank you all for getting my *** in trouble, first.



I've been using NXT Tech wax for a while now with after just washing my car with NXT car wash. I've been reading alot of good stuff about clay bar'n before so i'm purcashing (clay magic kit), but I want to try a different wax, or something better than NXT after i claybar this time around. I live in south jersey, so its gettin kinda cold here, but i keep my car in the garage.



Any suggestions on a different wax to use? I'm totally happy with NXT tech, but don't really know anything else but that.



right now i'm getting



- Autoglym Glass Polish

- Clay Magic Kit

- Plexus Plastic Polish

- Sonus Cockpit Detailer



And i'd like to add a wax to that purchase, any ideas?? or suggestions on any of my addiction?



- Keith
 
Just try topping NXT with Meguiars #16 Pro Paste Wax. I find it to be an excellent combo and #16 adds noticable wetness to NXT.
 
I second that. #16 is always a good choice. It looked great on my car over UPP, so I'd imagine it also looks great over NXT.
 
sorry i'm noob. I was definatly looking at #16, but what is UPP?? I also saw some people saying to do an AOE before waxing? but isn't claying good enough??
 
porterror said:
sorry i'm noob. I was definatly looking at #16, but what is UPP?? I also saw some people saying to do an AOE before waxing? but isn't claying good enough??
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What you might want to do is download the e-book and also find DavidB's article on the perfect shine (just do a search, I am not sure where it is). That should give you some additional information about detailing in general and answer most of the questions you have.



The most important think is prepping the paint. If done correctly, the wax or sealant isn't going to make a huge difference.



Burlyq-I didn't know you'd already tried Nattys. I take it you like it?
 
hmm, think the p21 is too expensive for right now. I'm going to try NXT Tech wax -> #16 . How long should i wait between coats? And what do you guys suggest doing Clay -> Pre-wax? And should i use that All-in-One stuff on autotopia?
 
Yes...clay first, then a cleaner like All-In-One.

Most people agree with 24hrs between coats of waxes or sealants.

You DON'T have to wait to apply coats of cleaners or polishes. Apply the first layer of wax/sealant right after the cleaner, but let it cure for 24hrs before adding a 2nd coat.
 
P21s is also s100 and can be bought for 15 bucks at a harley dealership porterror.



Yes I tried Natty's and liked it very much for the money. Seams like it might be deeper that p21s and I like the coconut smell better. However, I still love my s100, it's a nice shine and I've been doing some durabilty testing and it is doing better than I previously thought. I'm waiting for a sample pack from tropicare and I'm going to try Wolf and Tropicare on one side and Natty's and p21s/s100 on the other. I use my own test results for what I put in my business. It will either be s100 or Natty's depending on what my findings are. After I test for durabilty I will test on a dark car and see if there's a difference in looks that would make me keep them both. They are both priced right for business, or people trying to save money and still get great results.
 
P21S is definately worth it, although many contend that S100 is the same and half the price. I wouldn't say $31 is outrageous at all actually seeing as you can drop a ton on a small jar of Souveran, or a bottle of FMJ. You definately can't go wrong with #16 though; cheap, looks great, and durable.
 
hmm, i'll try this #16 out to see if i can get better results than just using NXT by itself. I'm also excited to see the difference by using Klasse AIO before starting the waxing process. Will i see much better results doing that?
 
also, i have no clue how to apply the AIO product? I dont' have a machine and do this all by hand applicators that are micro-fiber. Is it kinda the same proess as waxing?
 
Hey, porterror!



You are too focused on waxing alone. Remember, waxing is just the last step of a tedious process, and not the most important step!

Keeping your car ultra clean does not mean that it is also swirl free! If you can see spiderwebbing, marring, holograms, then waxing is a half-hearted effort to cure it. Yes, the wax will hide some of them, but after a short while they will show up again.

AIO is a great product, a gentle but effective cleaner. You can use it by hand, but hand detailing is a lot of elbow grease & PITA!

Delete 'waxing' from your mental dictionary, and think of detailing! You and your processes will become more complete by this.

So, do the whole thing! A beautifully clear, flake-poppin' metallic, a deep red, a wondrous black is always a joy.

So, do the main step, which is polishing/prepping. Then show your work to the world by protecting it with healthy coats of sealant/wax.



Enjoy!
 
Everyone has their favorite wax, and part of the fun of being an Autopian is finding out yours! I have a number of products that I'll send samples of...



#26

#16

#6

#20

MPPP

VMoose

Moosewax

EX

Souv liquid

Stuf

AIO & SG

4* UPP

Ultra

ColorX



I dunno, there's more, but this is a start. 2oz samples will do a car once. Really, although they are all different, and I do have preferences, they ALL look great when the swirls are gone, even Meg's Cleaner Wax.



That being said, I think you'll find that most here toe the line on what Bence wrote, with the exception of the word "tedious"! "Methodical" might be a better word.





Tom
 
i put #16 on my mom's blue jetta exactly one month ago, it still looks good after a rain to run off the road salt and other crap...plus the weather in NJ hasnt exactly been nice lately:mad:
 
porterror said:
I can drop the $12 - $16 for #16 wax. Is this stuff worth it?
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Yeah, it's worth it. Used properly, a can of #16 will literally last for years. Just don't waste it by applying too heavy a coat.
 
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