Update -- pics of my Z-12 hazing

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Well, to give you guys an idea of what I'm talking about in this thread, I took some pictures of what the haze on my glass looks like. Here's a picture of the glass that's hazed and, for comparison, here's a picture of unhazed glass.



Anyway, the pics aren't the greatest, but the hazing is clearly being caused by the tiny little "specks" or abrasions that are evident in the first picture. There's just GOT to be a way to get rid of this!!! Any ideas? I'm planning on taking the car to a pro detailer on Monday if I don't solve this problem by then.



To be fair, I don't totally think this is the fault of the Z-12, per se. I noticed this problem after buffing the rear glass with Z-12, but I don't know for sure that other glass compound wouldn't have done the same thing.
 
Well actually that would be the fault of the Z12 then. Like when I used to use FI2, the product would haze the surface when id rub it off with an MF towel.
 
Al, do you think that a pro will be able to repair that? I think the reason I can't is that the compounds I have (other than Z-12, of course) combined with my PC aren't aggressive enough to "cut" the glass. I suspect that the Z-12 IS aggressive enough, but the diminishing abrasives just aren't breaking down sufficiently and are therefore leaving a haze. I don't mind taking it to a detailer (there's one close to me that I found through Ron Ketcham's AutoInt.com site) if they can fix it...the pro I spoke to today said it'd only run about $20 or so to repair. Heck, it's worth a lot more than $20 to me to have that eyesore fixed!



FWIW, I sent those pictures and an explanation of the problem to Ron Ketcham himself. It's a shame he doesn't frequent the board any more...I suspect he'd have a good idea as to how this could be fixed -- professionally or otherwise.
 
Schwa72



The glass can be buffed with a rotary buffer and a lambswool pad and the proper polish and it will totally removed the problem. If needed the glass can also be "cut", but from what I can see polishing should do the trick. AutoInt has a TechTip listed for this very problem, I am sure Ron would mention it in this case.



Good Luck!
 
Showroom, thanks for the guidance!! I just knew there had to be a way to fix this, and figured it would probably involve a rotary. Can you point me to Ron's Tech Tip so I can print it and take it to the Auto International-certified detailer I plan on visiting? I can't seem to find it on his website. Hopefully the detailer should be able to fix me right up!!



Well, I'll save judgment until after this problem is repaired, but I doubt I'll feel comfortable using Z-12 again.
 
Well, if you want the long story, click here, but the bottom line is that the AutoInt.com (i.e. Ron Ketcham's) Tech Tip didn't fix the hazing on my hatch glass. Does anyone have any other suggestions? My faith in "professional detailers" has been shaken, so it'll be a while before I try one of them again. I think at this point the smartest (and safest) course of action may be to try to have this fixed under warranty at my next visit to the dealer; it seems as though (and Sal Zaino suggested this might be the case) the glass may be defective.
 
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