Ultimate Compound...The Importance Of A Test Spot

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Dsoto87

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Ultimate Compound messed up my paint​

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All I can say is.............ouch.........:bolt





Im betting meguiars customer service line has been getting a ton of phone calls with the same line since ultimate compound hit the store shelves.



For a everyday consumer the directions are a little misleading.

Follow Meguiars Ultimate Compound with Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 to seal in the shine
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And from Amazon.com

# Leaves a Like-New Finish and Adds Gloss in One Step

# Perfect to Use Before Waxing
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So has anyone actually used this stuff? How does it compare to m105? Its pretty cheap....$10 for 16 ounces



Is it more like m95?
 
I literally used it the same day this guy posted. I used it as the first, and last step to remove my 3,000 grit sanding marks during some extensive touch-up work on a frost white (aka PEARL) Maxima.



This stuff was unbelievable for *me*...it works into the paint, and disappeared like water almost. Virtually nothing to wipe off, and what little there was left came off very easily. I checked under the sun, 1,000 watts of halogens, my HID orange portable light, and a dual Xenon Brinkman (first time using UC, so I wanted to see how it truly worked) and it was 100% gloss lovliness and ready for my topper of Opti-Seal and OCW.



It even removed all of the swirls on the car in the area (I worked a slightly larger area than the sanding) in a single attempt- car has 30,000 miles of use on it.



Very impressed with the product, and I think that Civic was a simple case of improper technique gone horribly wrong.



You can see the finger marks all over the place... yikes.
 
I used it on a 2001 Black Sonoma this past Saturday. This vehicle's previous owner washed in improperly and did not wax it often. That being said, the vehicle had typical swirl marks, deeper scratches, and generally a neglected. surface. I used UC with a cyclo with green light polishing pads and with orange light compounding pads. I was pleasently surprised with the long work time, minimal dusting, and the vast majority of the time the surface is ready for LSP. I saw the post on Meguiars forum and would concur that it was improper application. For me, UC had less bite than Meguiars 105 and is specifically made for DIY'ers (personally I wish it had more but I understand that there are compromises for the home user). It is a real easy product to use. I am curious why that individual decided that UC would be appropriate for such a new vehicle, rather than a light polish (even Swirlx which was possibly right next to that on the shelf).
 
It IS on Honda! Maybe too strong for such a soft paint. Maybe used a wool pad and rotary and didn't know what he was doing.
 
I think we can all agree it was improper technique. Looks like Mike and Al already posted some good info so that the user can fix his problem. ;)



I too think their customer service line will be more busy with the roll out of UC. :nervous2:
 
I used UC on a black navigator and black harley f-150 and really like the results. on the harley f-150, there is holograming but i attribute it to improper technique and rushing through. there was a little haziness but that was easily removed with polish that has less cut. it appears to work pretty good for the weekend warrior that wants something OTC.
 
If you look at the top of the door, you can plainly see holograms which ONLY a rotary can cause. Why would this guy lie about the product this way? he makes himself look stupid.:down
 
Auto Concierge said:
If you look at the top of the door, you can plainly see holograms which ONLY a rotary can cause. Why would this guy lie about the product this way? he makes himself look stupid.:down
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:think: sorry I don't see it

I do see finger marks from trying to using a ompound like a wax
 
Auto Concierge said:
If you look at the top of the door, you can plainly see holograms which ONLY a rotary can cause. Why would this guy lie about the product this way? he makes himself look stupid.:down
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Check out the MOL thread. He clearly states he used it by hand. I don't see how those holograms could only be cause by a rotary, either.
 
I'd like to give my support to the title of this thread: the importance of a test spot! The disaster of this car could have been avoided if the individual had done a test spot, instead of polishing his entire car. If he had done a test spot, perhaps he would have seen the disastrous consequences of his technique and would have refrained from inflicting it upon his entire car. Perhaps.



It's hard for me to look at these pictures without cringing. :(
 
I saw this today too on Megs site. It is almost hard to believe that using a product by hand can cause that much damage.
 
Having had a number of obsecure shapes cars over the year, Morgans for example i have had to come up with some good ways of hand polishing!



By far are the Sonus German style applicators, they are super flat and firm, no finger spots! Also, you can cut them up from there long origional form to shorter more easy to handle ones.



Geoff
 
DavidB said:
I'm sorry... the product did not create that damage. An idiot did!
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You'd be amazed...or maybe you wouldn't about the number of cars like that I've had to fix after the owner attempted to hand polish. Either they mar it up with their finger tips or wipe the compound on like a wax, let it dry and then try to buff it off.
 
I don't think it was the product, the first time I tried compounding one of my cars, it looked very similar. Turns out I wasn't working the polish in long enough and basically doing 2 very quick passes over the paint with a an abrasive polish. That looks like 100% user error, not the compound's fault.
 
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