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ironexecutioner

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I was in the car dealership the other day and saw the sticker for "never wax again" I couldn't help but be curious. I asked the sales guy and he said its a teflon coating and its warranted for 5 yrs. I am very skeptical and just curious what everyone thinks about this stuff.
 
Teflon is not a viable paint protectant. You are right to be skeptical and the sales guy is either an idiot or in on the scam.
 
Plenty of threads on the subject of dealer "teflon coatings." I think there's one started almost every other day. They all end the same way: don't waste your money.
 
For a teflon coating to be applied onto the paint, it would be heated past the point of the paint melting off of the car. The only good product sold at dealerships is Matrix Micro Coatings. Xzilon, Resist-All, and others are all a scam.





John
 
Is it the TST5000? I have a bottle of that and I dont believe it will last five years, but I would not pay $500 to have it applied on a new car. I guess is not bad, but not superb either.
 
JohnKleven said:
The only good product sold at dealerships is Matrix Micro Coatings. Xzilon, Resist-All, and others are all a scam.





John
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What others dealer sealants have your personally tried in comparison? Aren't you an application center for Matrix?
 
David Fermani said:
What others dealer sealants have your personally tried in comparison? Aren't you an application center for Matrix?
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According to his website he is:



New Car Protection



I like your free loaner car service BTW. That's a nice touch! :up
 
Yup, and I have tried them all. And don't worry, I'm not trying to sell this product to anyone here, as I can't sell it to detailers anyways. There were a few other interesting products I saw at SEMA this year, but they were marketed towards detailers unlike all the other products that are marketed towards auto dealerships. I now only train dealerships how to apply the Matrix coating.





John
 
However, if you could figure out how to get teflon on a car, it would be like a nonstick frying pan, and would be very easy to clean.





John
 
Let's put it this way. Any coating that gives a warranty for x amount of years, but comes with a refresher pack so you must reapply the product, is a hoax in my book. If they're going to warranty a product for 3 years, but you have to reapply the product every six months to keep your warranty, then you're really not warrantying anything. A 3 year, or 5 year warranty should last for 3 or 5 years. Period.





John
 
JohnKleven said:
Let's put it this way. Any coating that gives a warranty for x amount of years, but comes with a refresher pack so you must reapply the product, is a hoax in my book. If they're going to warranty a product for 3 years, but you have to reapply the product every six months to keep your warranty, then you're really not warrantying anything. A 3 year, or 5 year warranty should last for 3 or 5 years. Period.





John
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If you have to reapply it every 6months, well I can do that at a fraction of the cost with UPGP or Opti-Seal to name a few.
 
AeroCleanse said:
If you have to reapply it every 6months, well I can do that at a fraction of the cost with UPGP or Opti-Seal to name a few.
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Not really. A wash and wax from most detailers is well over $100. Multiply that by 10 (twice a year for 5 years) and the dealer service is actually cheaper. Not to mention the warranty that comes with it.



People need to acknowledge that these dealer protection warrany plans are very lucrative if managed correctly. Most of these sealants are pretty much on par with what enthusiats are currently using anyways. The troubling part is how it's incorrectly applied and applied to sub-par finishes.



JohnKleven/metropolitandet - I guess after 2 requests you still don't feel the need to answer my simple question? Thanks.
 
JohnKleven said:
However, if you could figure out how to get teflon on a car, it would be like a nonstick frying pan, and would be very easy to clean.





John
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It can be done but the PTFE would limit the looks of the paint as well as the color options. It would probably require the paint to be a single stage variety with chopped PTFE fibers mixed in. Processing of the paint application would definitely change pushing the costs out of the price range that auto manufacturers would prefer to spend on the RM; especially since current electrostatic painting is pretty inexpensive and leaves a relatively uniform finish.



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David Fermani said:
Not really. A wash and wax from most detailers is well over $100. Multiply that by 10 (twice a year for 5 years) and the dealer service is actually cheaper..
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Not really, because you can buy the products yourself and not have to pay a detailer.



Lets see, one bottle of Opti-Seal @ $25 for one car, probably lasts more than 5 years if applied correctly.



BTW, I don't charge $100 for a wash and wax.
 
I think you misunderstood my point AeroClense. I'm referring to someone that isn't a DIY'r. Which is typically the people that buy protection packages in the 1st place.
 
David Fermani said:
I think you misunderstood my point AeroClense. I'm referring to someone that isn't a DIY'r. Which is typically the people that buy protection packages in the 1st place.
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Cheaper yes, but taking the car to a detailer regularly will result in a better looking car 5 years down the road.
 
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