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why is it bother you?

Everything that I have read about Menzerna have been that they are top quality products
 
I have never had any issues with Menzerna polishes however will admit I don't know enough about the science to confirm or argue against the "swelling" paint issue. I just know I love the stuff and that thread doesn't disturb me at all.
 
I don't think there is any issue with Menzerna ... unless they come up with some evidence. As I said over there, Anthony said that paint doesn't absorb anything, even water, which is pretty darn small, and now he's saying the solvents in Menzerna swells up the paint?? I don't think so. I could be wrong, which may be because I can't grasp all of the theories about paint and solvents but from my understanding I can't see how this could be possible. What I can see, is some excess polish residue 'sticking' to the velley of the swirls making it appear that the swirls are removed until it evaporates or a good alcohol wipedown is done.
 
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Thats some conclusion that guy has come up with. I find easier to beleive it might have a small amount of fillers(or he didn't remove all the swirls) rather then that wacky conclusion that it has solvents that swell the paint.
 
justin30513 said:
That's why it bothers me.
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I've not used the Menerzna line but would like to...they seem to be real top quality line and I don't think they would have fillers....seems that's what is being in-applied..swelling of the paint? that's a first for me
 
Oddly enough I used Menz Intensive polish and finishing polish today on cat scratches that I've not been able to remove since 2004. Due to my cautionary approach it took several passes with orange pads (Cyclo, after failure with a PC) to remove them. I should have gone to yellow pads but I did not.

With extreme scrutiny the kitty marks were inspected after every pass. The product did work without question although it took much more work than I expected, again I should have gone to the yellow pads initially.

In short I DO NOT believe there are fillers at work here.....far too much work involved to bring the scratches to 95% removal. A filler would have done it in short order.......my take.
 
justin30513 said:
This was just poste at AutoGeek. To tell you the truth, it kind of upset me.

Any Solvent Content in Menzerna Polishes - Autogeekonline.net - Car Care, Car Wax and Auto Detailing Forum
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justin30513 said:
That's why it bothers me.
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I am not trying to take sides in this discussion. I am not trying to start a flame war. I am probably going to step on some toes. Maybe even upset some folks. I apologize in advance for this. If the mods or Troy would like to delete my post, I understand.

I have never used this line of polish, so I have no opinions either way about the characteristics, but I do not understand the usefulness of re-posting something from another forum that you did not originally post??? :confused: Especially, if you don't agree with it. :huh: Again, I am not taking sides in this issue, I just don't see the benefit of it I guess.

Just my 2 cents.

Troy, thanks for providing us with a place where we can agree to disagree and leave it at that. :bigups

:cheers: Dave
 
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but I do not understand the usefulness of re-posting something from another forum that you did not originally post??? :confused:
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Just to pass possible useful information on to people who may not frequent other boards. I've learned a lot of neat tricks and new forums by people posting stuff here at DC from other forums. I like to visit other places occasionally, but DC is my home. Anything that might be a good read is worthy of posting in my opinion.
 
Whenever I use Menzerna polishes, the paint finishes up squeaky clean - literally. Squirt a little water on the finish, draw your fingers across it, and your fingers will grab and squeak across the surface. Perfectly smooth, but no slickness.

I believe that means it isn't leaving anything behind.
 
TiredNGrouchy said:
Whenever I use Menzerna polishes, the paint finishes up squeaky clean - literally. Squirt a little water on the finish, draw your fingers across it, and your fingers will grab and squeak across the surface. Perfectly smooth, but no slickness.

I believe that means it isn't leaving anything behind.
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I noticed this right off the bat too when I used 106ff and IP. Amazing. I've never had this finish characteristic with any other polish.
 
All polishes contain some type of oil based lubrication system except ZPC. In the case of Optimum compounds they do indeed leave something on the surface. I've used OC and then followed with ZPC and had little balls flying out from under the pad. The ZPC was actually removing the film that OC left behind and mixing with the broken down ZPC. Others have posted the same results. As for Menzerna, always follow a polish with a ISO wipedown. I'm very skeptical about solvents swelling the paint. I'd think anything strong enough to swell paint would permanently melt and damage it. IMO it's a case of not believing everything that's posted on the internet.
 
I just bought SIP and Nano and will be trying them out soon. I am going to pay close attention but IMO- I think the guy didnt get all the swirls/imperfections out of the clear and when the vehicle was in better/different light they could be seen. Just my 2 cents.
 
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