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The Civic just been resprayed with some nice shine layers of clear coat but with some orange peel on it..

The painter told me that he will wet sand it tomorrow with 3M 1500 sandpaper and he will use compound to polish it...

1)Is that a good idea for a freshly painted car??

2)If it is not a good idea,what possible problems may cause to clear??(i told to the painter not to do it now but i cannot change his mind)

3)Of course i will need to polish it with a finer polish to remove the holograms and light swirls from compounding,and wax the car...Does it matter what kind of wax i am going to use??



Thanks
 
1. Yes that is fine, in fact, that's how painters generally deal with orange peel. Once the clear is dry and cured a bit, they will go and wetsand the entire car or just the orange peel areas and then compound it then polish it.



3. The wax is personal preference, just about everybody I've talked to uses a different type of product. Unless the clear was applied wrong or is too thin, nothing will happen to it with the wetsanding process and compound and polish. This is assuming the painter knows exactly what he's doing, of course. The holograms are left when a rotary is used in the compound and polish steps, and can be easily removed, usually with a DA polisher. Again, assuming he's a good painter, point them out to him and he can remove them.
 
pampos said:
The Civic just been resprayed with some nice shine layers of clear coat but with some orange peel on it..

The painter told me that he will wet sand it tomorrow with 3M 1500 sandpaper and he will use compound to polish it...

1)Is that a good idea for a freshly painted car??

2)If it is not a good idea,what possible problems may cause to clear??(i told to the painter not to do it now but i cannot change his mind)

3)Of course i will need to polish it with a finer polish to remove the holograms and light swirls from compounding,and wax the car...Does it matter what kind of wax i am going to use??



Thanks
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Have you seen the write ups from Ryan and Rick with the G35's?
 
RZJZA80 said:
1. Yes that is fine, in fact, that's how painters generally deal with orange peel. Once the clear is dry and cured a bit, they will go and wetsand the entire car or just the orange peel areas and then compound it then polish it.



3. The wax is personal preference, just about everybody I've talked to uses a different type of product. Unless the clear was applied wrong or is too thin, nothing will happen to it with the wetsanding process and compound and polish. This is assuming the painter knows exactly what he's doing, of course. The holograms are left when a rotary is used in the compound and polish steps, and can be easily removed, usually with a DA polisher. Again, assuming he's a good painter, point them out to him and he can remove them.
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I guess he can't and i am sure that he will not listen enything...He thinks that he knows everything,and that the holograms are normal :LOLOL

I hope to wet sand it good enough to remove the orange peel and i can remove the remaining defects...

But the reason i asked it is because i wasn't sure if it is OK to sand and polish a fresh CC which dries only for about 15 hours naturally during the night.
 
pampos said:
I guess he can't and i am sure that he will not listen enything...He thinks that he knows everything,and that the holograms are normal :LOLOL

I hope to wet sand it good enough to remove the orange peel and i can remove the remaining defects...

But the reason i asked it is because i wasn't sure if it is OK to sand and polish a fresh CC which dries only for about 15 hours naturally during the night.
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the amount of time entirely depends on the clear coat itself, how the painters applied it, the gun used, etc.. For my car, he would let it dry about 24 hours to be on the safe side before wetsanding it down.
 
1)Is that a good idea for a freshly painted car??
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Usually is. But there must be enough clear to cut and polish and that depends

on the number coats with the solid content. After cutting (sanding) and polishing

there needs to be at least 2 mils of clear for good UV protection.

2)If it is not a good idea,what possible problems may cause to clear??(i told to the painter not to do it now but i cannot change his mind)
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The sanding and polishing can take off a significant amount. If shot at least 3

coats of clear, the margin *should be ok.

3)Of course i will need to polish it with a finer polish to remove the holograms and light swirls from compounding,and wax the car...Does it matter what kind of wax i am going to use??
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Ha!, yah, most expect to see swirls and holos from bodyshops. It's really one

of the most unprofitable part of the job as it takes time to finish properly depending

on the desired level. Ask about the process he'll take. And yes, the wax matters;

it MUST be "bodyshop" safe. But ask them NOT to wax/glaze.



Curious, how much was the job?

What was the condition of the car before and what was done before the paint?

What materials (brand) did they use?
 
Flashtime said:
Usually is. But there must be enough clear to cut and polish and that depends

on the number coats with the solid content. After cutting (sanding) and polishing

there needs to be at least 2 mils of clear for good UV protection.



The sanding and polishing can take off a significant amount. If shot at least 3

coats of clear, the margin *should be ok.



Ha!, yah, most expect to see swirls and holos from bodyshops. It's really one

of the most unprofitable part of the job as it takes time to finish properly depending

on the desired level. Ask about the process he'll take. And yes, the wax matters;

it MUST be "bodyshop" safe. But ask them NOT to wax/glaze.



Curious, how much was the job?

What was the condition of the car before and what was done before the paint?

What materials (brand) did they use?
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The car have been resprayed from the previous owner and it was full of scratches under the paint,deEp scratches above the paint,lot of dents and the metal was wavy...

he sand the entire car to remove and flat the paint,he repaired the dents with some fillers and he applied the primer cot 3:1 as he said(i dont know what is that,but he told me that it is a thick coat to cover any damages).Then he sand the car again to flat the primer,he sprayed the colours and he applied one layer of base for the CC and two layers of CC.

I don't remember what was the brand of the paint but the CC name is High Solid but i am not remember from what brand...I will ask tomorrow and i will post it with the pictures : )

It was the cheaper painter i could find.It will cost to me about $2000 USD
 
my buddy recently had his civic painted and wetsanded.



he wetsanded over a week after it was painted, but only because he didn't have the time



before wetsanding:



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ill post an after photo in a few.
 
I will post tonight when i am going to finish it..Sorry for my poor English but what you mean by ''diddly''??
 
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