Swirl Remover/Prep Product

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BRUN

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im about to place an order for all new products so that i can do my car properly



from reading this site ive come to realise a lot of the results is in the preparation.......so, id appreciate some opinions on which products to use first



ill be using the Clearkote clay bar first, then the cleaner/swirl remover product, and then #7 show car glaze followed by NXT



(please dont debate my final stage products, if they turn out to be rubbish ive got another plan !....which involves EX-P and #16)



ive been thinking of Swirl Remover #9 2.0, or Clearkote Vanilla Moose



ive got a metallic black car with quite a few swirls id like to get rid of



thanks for all the help on here, this forums great, im very new to it and asking a lot of questions, and i can always rely on well reasoned aswers from people speaking from personal experience !
 
I think you'll find the #9 to be more of a benefit than the VM for swirl removal. VM is a glaze that has some nice chemical cleaners in it, but nothing abrasive (if so it is miniscule). It does help hide minor swirls with its oils. I like the VM better than the #7 because of the ease of use factor. This is just my $.02

It sounds like you are on the right track and have the proper order to which apply the products, Pics are a must when you get your car done :D
 
maybe i shouldnt be so set on using #7 then........



thing is though, after what ive read about it, it sounds like THE product to give me the really wet look i crave !........
 
I know black and I know swirls. I've been "in black" since 1977. :xyxthumbs



Sometimes (make that most of the time) to remove swirls on black you need to use what some folks consider to be pretty aggressive stuff. If you have a pc, you might as well start with a polishing pad and Meguiar's #83 DACP with the pc set at 5. Follow this with #82 SFP on a fresh polishing pad with the pc set somewhere around 3-4. Then apply the NXT with another polishing pad. Remove all of the products with microfiber polishing cloths. You should have a near perfect finish.



If you are doing the car by hand, I suggest using Meguiar's Medallion Premium Paint Protection applied with a microfiber covered application pad. Use the Swirl Remover #9 where you need it most --the whole car if necessary. Again use a microfiber covered applicator. Meguiar's Hand Polish #81 might be a good but not necessary step before applying the NXT.



In my opinion, #7 is an excellent product for show cars, but using it on a daily driver is a waste of time. (First time I used it was on a new 1970 dark metallic green Olds Cutlass 442. :D)



By the way, even though many folks on this forum sort of put down NXT because it is a consumer line product, I have found that it is a darned good product for black cars. It can't be layered, but its light cleaning capability is great on daily drivers. I've even managed to remove minor water spotting with it.



I apply a fresh coat of NXT about every 6 weeks on my black Hemi. I wash the truck with Deep Crystal or NXT wash and dry it with microfiber towels. I've not had the need to use a QD since switching over to NXT and microfiber towels.



If you really want the wet look top NXT with a carnauba. (S100 or Meguiar's #16) Of the sealants out there, perhaps BLACKFIRE has the wettest look. (At least that my opinion.) You may want to use it rather than NXT.



Tom :cool:
 
If you're doing a black car by hand, dont expect superb results. Black reveals all, and it's nearly impossible to get perfect by hand. Even with a PC i've rarely seen a truely perfect black finish. I ended up giving up by hand on my black car and im just living with it... saving those pennies for the PC...
 
is there no way i can keep the wet look of #7 on a daily driver car, by using sealant/wax over the top ?
 
Glazes are great products, it is unfortunately a short lived product once applied.



In the long term it is easier if the swirls etc are removed with a polish.
 
well what if i used swirl remover #9, then used #7 show car glaze, and topped with a sealant ?
 
I think NXT with adhere over the oils in #7 if I remember correctly what Mike P. said. For some unknown reason to me (im not a chemical engineer) the glazes seem to disappear after few washes even with a sealant over top of them. This has been my observation at least. On black cars *I* like the look of VM topped with TS wax, that gives me a nice warm, wet look in my eyes. Also VM + Ex-P looks real wet in my eyes.

Of course it may look different to you and others.



So to answer your question I would say that your combo will produce a nice wet look, but it may dimish rapidly on a daily driver like the others have mentioned above.
 
hmmmmmm



i think im definitely going to go the EX-P route, however, and reminding myself of the main reason for this thread, i need recommendations to get rid of swirls !



what about the Poorboys World SSR ?
 
I got a demo of the SSR line last weekend and I am impressed with them. I think they are a good choice if you have a PC, Im not sure how they will work by hand. If you are doing this by hand I would suggest you look at the 1Z line of polishes carefully, they are very user friendly and they do a good job at removing swirls.
 
had a bit of a read up, and if i can get it im going to try Poorboys SSR 2.5, ill jus have to see how i go doing it by hand !
 
Im really surprised you cant get them over there, they are a German company, so close to you. We have to wait until they decide to import them over here.
 
Hi again BRUN!



If you want 1Z polishes go to http://www.detailersparadise.com.



Alex sells the Poorboys SSR products.



No matter what you use, you'll have your work cut out to remove anything but the finest of swirls by hand.



Don't be afraid to order some products from the USA - they arrive on your doorstep in just the same way as if you'd ordered them from the UK. You can be quite limited if you just stick to products only available in the UK.
 
If you go with th SSR's, I'd suggest 2.5. 3 is a bit too aggressive. 2.5 can get a finish wax ready, depending on pad choice and experience of operator. I used 2 on my black car and it got rid of the marring from winter quite easily, but it sounds like you may have worse marring. They can also be used by hand, but i'd recommend a buffer, as they use diminishing abrasives, so unless you've got some great stamina, or do the car in sections, I doubt you'll get the best results by hand.

Good luck, and remember to post pics if you can!
 
BRUN said:
i live in the UK and as far as i know we cant get any of the 1z products over here
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I've ordered 1Z stuff from http://www.erazer.co.uk/, and they've supplied me very promptly at a very competetive price. Would happily recommend them again, as they carry most of the 1Z range.



I've also ordered it via the US from the autopia store, and they've also been very good indeed, very quick delivery times, and prices work out well even with delivery with the current exchange rates.



Sam.
 
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