Surbuf is naughty and nice

They are the same except for the weight in the head. You want the 7336 that comes with the #6 weight. Lowes for $109 is the best I have found.
 
The one I bougtht from CMA is the 7424. I thought that was the one most here recommended? What does the weight difference do?

Thanks,Bill
 
7424 at Coastal is $115......get the pads at CMA...7424 needs the

weight because that offers the orbital motion....but I had to buy the velcro backing plate and all the pads...

get extra pads..you'll need it
 
I think the best thing to do is get the 7336, which comes with the counterweight for the 6", from Lowe's for $109. Then get the CMA pad kit. The 7424 comes with the 5" counterweight, which is ok for the pad that screws right into the orbital, but the velcro backing plate is much heavier than the foam pad that screws in, so the 6" counterweight is more beneficial. And, most agree that the pad that comes with the 7424 is pretty much useless. So, with the 7336, you get the 6" counterweight (which is better), a sander (which comes in handy), and since you have to order a velcro backing plate and pads with either the 7336 or 7424, the 7336 is cheaper.
 
If you purchase the 7424 you will need to buy the #6 counterweight to use the pad kit from CMA. The 7424 comes with the #5 weight which will not work properly with the 6'' backing plate from CMA



You can buy the 7336 from Lowes with the proper counterweight already installed for $109.



The 7424 and 7336 are the same machine, they are just outfitted differently. The 7336 comes with some sanding stuff in additon to the polishing head, otherwise they are exactally the same.



IMO the 7336 is the way to go. It's cheaper than the 7424, and it already has the proper counterweight installed. Plus you can get it locally so you don't have to pay S&H. :up
 
I am still a bit confused. If I bought the 7424 from CMA do I need to buy a different weight? I did buy the kit so I am using the velcro backing plate instead of the screw in pads.

Thanks, Bill
 
Yes it is a good idea to get the # 6 weight if you are using a 6 inch backing plate and 6 inch pads like the ones CMA sells. It is supposed to balance the machine better. I spoke to Jack at CMA awhile ago and he said they have no problems with the 5 weight and 6 inch pads but if you get into the higher top speeds of the mavhine you may feel a difference. Coastal says get the 6 weight and Autopians say #6 weight.
 
They may have to buy in quantity and have lots of 7224's in stock.

I know that machine cost them at least $136.00 maybe more.I was going to order special order one from Home Depo and seen the cost on it which was 136.00. Lowes must buy a truckful to sell at that price.
 
I would get the #6 weight. You might not notice it on the lower speeds, but when you get to around 5 or 6 the machine will vibrate pretty bad if the proper weight is not installed. I think you can get the #6 weight from www.coastaltool.com for around $2. But then you have to pay something like $6 shipping. :rolleyes:
 
So does anyone want to purchase a 7336 from Lowes and ship it to a poor Canadian that is getting gouged by local tool shops?

Paypal anyone?
 
I just wanted to thank you guys for the excellent info and for taking the time to write the response.

Lowes will ship to Canada and my wife is also going to Dallas next week so I may try to get her to pick one up.

Thanks again!
 
Well, I just finished the wifes black G35.. I spent around 18 hours just this weekend.

Around half of the car I used the following procedure:

M105 Yellow pad
M105 Orange pad
M205 White pad
M205 Black pad

The other portion I used:

M105 Surbuf
M205 White pad
M205 Black pad

The side I used the Surbuf on looks better under my LED light. Score one for Surbuf! Also, took less time, less product, etc.

But... I now have two deep scratches thanks to the Surbuf. One I saw happen, when working on the trunk, the other I have no idea how it happened.

Basically, the white material that the microfibers attach to has a wonderfully sharp edge that will eat through paint in less than a second. On curvier panels, especially ones that curve inward, if the Surbuf pad bends, you're in trouble!

How do people deal with this? I love the result, but boy is it dangerous/tricky to use. I never have to worry about screwing up the paint with a foam pad.

On a side note, I also had some of the blue foam on the LC flat pads disintegrate around the velcro on 2 pads and that pretty much ruined them.
 
Surbuf

With my limited use of a surbuf pad I use it on the DA only for major defect removal (sanding marks etc,.)and not an all over correction pad. Some people have mentioned using it for polishing but I reserve that for the foam pads. Jusy my :2 cents:.
 
I have used the Surbuf pads with great success, for swirl removal, and never had this problem. I wouldn't use the Surbuf pads unless the paint was in really bad shape. Serious swirl marks, RIDS, spider webbing, etc. For lighter defect removal, I like the Hydrotech pads.
 
Yeah, the swirls were deep! It was an off lease used car purchase, so three years if abuse. I wish I could figure out how to use them without gouging the paint, because they corrected quickly and did a great job
 
First of all, what type of polisher are you using? Are you using a DA or rotary? It is not meant for use with a rotary. Also, what pad size did you use?

When using these pads, you do not need to apply much pressure while polishing. The application with these pads are different from using the KBM and foam pads.

Bryan Burnworth wrote a great post on the use of these pads. I would suggest taking a look at it, as he has really mastered the technique.http://truthindetailing.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=1694&highlight=surbuf
 
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