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i am currently using a orange pad with poorboys ssr2.5 and i need something a little more aggressive. should i buy the sonus yellow pad or should i buy a more agressive polish/compound like ssr3 or menzerna power gloss
 
I'd reccomend PowerGloss, both the yellow pad and SSR3 will leave difficult to remove micromarring with a PC. PG is sold as rotary-only, but I've achieved pretty good results via it and a DA (the first time I got my car swirl free, I used PG and a cyclo/orange).
 
what kind of defect are you trying to remove??? i 2 have had success with powergloss and a DA but i wouldnt use it to polish the whole car with either. it does leave considerable marring which is easy to clean up with a light cutting pad an some IP. Also it cakes up easy as well. If your having trouble removing light swirls/marring id say pratice your technique, no product is going to help that, trust me i started out the same way ;).
 
It had swirls that were fairly deep, looked like they went through a automatic car wash with hard bristles. It also had a lot of light to moderate scratches (could not feel them with fingernail though) and there were alot of spots also, acid rain maybe? i got alot of the swirls and scratches out after spending about 3 hours with ssr2.5 (it was not a large car, 2 door coupe). so i was wondering if i had something a little more aggressive maybe it would have been easier? i know some of it probably has to do with my technique also, havent been detailing for too long.
 
KC_MPWR said:
i am currently using a orange pad with poorboys ssr2.5 and i need something a little more aggressive. should i buy the sonus yellow pad or should i buy a more agressive polish/compound like ssr3 or menzerna power gloss
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Honestly, I have a rotary and a Porter Cable unit and the Rotary hands down blows the PC away. I know alot of people use the PC, i find it to be a good tool after you use the Rotary, this way there are no swirl marks left by the Rotary.



Just my opinion, Get a Rotary, the PC is not a great 1 step tool.



Good luck,

Sellncars
 
themightytimmah said:
I'd reccomend PowerGloss, both the yellow pad and SSR3 will leave difficult to remove micromarring with a PC. PG is sold as rotary-only, but I've achieved pretty good results via it and a DA (the first time I got my car swirl free, I used PG and a cyclo/orange).
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Right. I'm not a fat at all of using heavy compounds with PC because of the aforementioned issue, but if one must be used, PG is the best. Mix with RMG and change pads frequently to keep the dust down. PG with the Yellow SFX pad will due the trick if you must go aggressive.
 
sellncars said:
Honestly, I have a rotary and a Porter Cable unit and the Rotary hands down blows the PC away. I know alot of people use the PC, i find it to be a good tool after you use the Rotary, this way there are no swirl marks left by the Rotary.



Just my opinion, Get a Rotary, the PC is not a great 1 step tool.



Good luck,

Sellncars
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Without a doubt what you say is correct. A rotary is a much much better tool for defect removal and is plenty safe as long as you take it slow while learning. And following the Rotary with the PC (to erase any halograms) is a good idea on black. BUT, it is a big investment for part-timers...though I guess it then comes down to "what's your time worth."
 
i have used powergloss with RMG and a burgandy pad on a faded black explorer with some bad scratches and lots of swirls and achieved pretty good results....i mixed 50/50
 
toyotaguy said:
i have used powergloss with RMG and a burgandy pad on a faded black explorer with some bad scratches and lots of swirls and achieved pretty good results....i mixed 50/50
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Why mix a compund with a glaze? Just use the compound correct and eliminate the swirls instead of hiding them.
 
I'll answer that (I guess I came up with the idea). The purpose is not to hide swirls, though I imagine if you mix 50/50 (which is higher than "usual") you will get some hiding...which will of course be wiped out by the final polish process. The purpose is to add "workability" to the otherwise quick-drying Menzerna polishes and compounds and to reduces dust.



I'm guessing 50/50 (PG/RMG) will dilute PG to somewhere just a little stronger than IP, but with a ton of working time and almost no dust.
 
just dont mix IP with OCP.......I tried this this past weekend. Although it did increase the workablity of the polish, it also thinned it out a good bit, so much that it was actually absorbing into the pad just laying on it. It worked fine but i did not feel comfortable with the consistancy. workablity was increased by maybe 1/3. Did a 3:1 mix.
 
Same here, I have both rotary and PC

Powergloss is really thick and powdery, I like adding a little VM to the mix to soften it, reduce the dust and prevent any hazing



I try not to use PG and use hyper instead if I can
 
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