Steps between Clay and Klasse AIO

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imported_The Uncle

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It has been about a year since I started visiting this forum. At that time, I had just purchased a new car, and came her to look for advice on how to protect the finish. Following everybody's comments, I clayed it, and then used Klasse twins. I've been very, very happy with the results. But, with the summer ending, I figured it might be time to do a long detail before the winter.



I'd like to use the same process again, but the car is now a year old. In a year on the roads in Los Angeles, it has picked up some minor damage . I've been carefully washing it by hand though, so I don't have have many swirls. And, because its a light color (a silver-blue) the imperfections that are there are very difficult to see.



My question is this: After I clay, do I need to use some kind of mild polish? I presume there are micro-scratchs there that I can't see which will dull the finish over time. I thought it might make sense to use something very mild in-between the clay and Klasse AIO. And, then I planned to give it a few coats of SG (last time, I used four coats over a month or two).
 
AIO is great for removing oxidation and very minor swirls. If you feel your car needs something more, you might look into something like #80 or Poorboy's SSR 2. Then you can proceed to the Klasse Twins.
 
I agree with the above, a mild polish before AIO would be a good choice for your situation. and of the above polishes are good choices.
 
Thanks guys.



I guess I was wondering whether a 1-year old car with very minor paint problems was a candidate for something like #9 following claying. From the reviews on this site it sounds like #9 is relatively mild and might be appropriate.
 
I applied #9 by hand on my one year old black clearcoat, hoping that it would get rid of the micro scratches. I was disapointed with the results. This weekend I'm going to give it a second going over. If that doesn't work, what can I use, that can be hand applied?
 
If #9 doesn't do it, you can try 3M's PI-III MG (05937), which is a little stronger, or Meg's #80 as per Carl Anderson's suggestion, which is quite a bit stronger. Both work fine by hand.
 
I really like Menzerna Final Polish prior to the Klasse twins. It leaves the finish like glass and has no fillers. I have also used DACP prior to AIO/SG with very good results
 
I agree. Merzerna FP II is excellent before AIO and contains no fillers. However, my problem is that I don't have a PC so Merzerna IP would be useless. FP II is not strong enough to remove the imperfections and swirls that I have. The Merzerna line is one of the only combinations that I have found that can be used under AIO. I have to check out Poorboys SSR2.5.
 
I don't do anything between claying and AIO other than washing, unless I'm really feeling picky. Usually, if you spend a good amount of time with the PC and AIO at least twice, you'll notice a good amount of minor swirling is removed.



However, I am always in the pursuit of something better (as a good Autopian should be :) ) so maybe I'll give Menzerna a try. I have been dying to try it anyways. However, I can't figure out for the life of me which of the Menzerna polishes is the mildest. I don't need anything very abrasive. A very mild polish would do just fine. I have tried 3M SMR by PC with a noticeable degree of success, but I just want to try Menzerna. If they have something in the same abrasiveness category as 3M SMR, I would definitely try it.



Hope this helps in some way :D :xyxthumbs
 
BlkNShiny03



I tried #9 last night on a very neglected Black VW Jetta and it made the pain shine but did not really got rid of the scratches. I tried DACP with and Orange pad and set my PC at 4500 rpm it smooth it out but the micro scratches were still there. I then took my Klasse AIO and used a microfiber applicator and Walla. Micro scratches went away so did the real nasty one. I then topped it off with NXT. I say DACP with a cutting pad or #9 with a cutting pad then Klasse AIO. You can decide if you want to SG or wax it then.



Ricky
 
With #9 applied by hand, do you use a back and forth motion as David describes in the learning section, or a circular motion?



Thanks!

Marty
 
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