Souveran or P21S

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dlw

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After 2 years of use from my original jar of Pinnacle Souveran, it's time to replenish, but I have an itch to try P21S. Which one should I get, money is not the biggest factor, although I wouldn't mind saving the price difference between the two, but not at the expense of the best look I can get.
 
i would say get p21s since you've tried PS already. P21s won't dissappoint you. Also, at this time, you should be able to judge betwwen the two product which one you prefer.
 
There's a ton of threads and boils down to PS having a slight edge P21S on black or other very dark colors. Personally, P21S is fine for me and performs excellently. Give it a try I say and see if you like the results just as much.
 
What color is your vehicle?



I find P21S may be better than Souveran on light colored cars and about the same on dark.
 
Depends on the color, Souveran, I have found to be better on dark colors. On light colors, P21s is a bit "brighter" and Souveran a bit "richer." I also think Souveran is a little bit easier to use in both application and removal than P21s.



Personally, if I were buying one or the other, I'd buy Souveran again.
 
They are both great waxes. I think Natty's kinda bridges the gap between them. And for $15, you can't beat it. For my black car, Souveran will probably always be king!
 
Souveran may be a tad better looking, but P21S repels dust better, has slightly better durability and stays cleaner after a rainstorm. Those factors pretty much settle it for me...
 
dlw,



I have some S100 on hand if you want to give it a try. FYI, in the past I've picked up both S100 wax and the paint cleanser at the Harley dealership at 73rd and L.



Also, I have both Natty's and #16 in my box-o-stuff. Just let me know what you want to experiment with, and you're welcome to it.



Tort
 
i have both...there both very easy ......the p21s makes my black mach look like black glass...the souveran..makes it look deep and rich..depends on what look you like....i know when i use p21s the high reflectivness gets more attention on the streets





both great waxes!...when my souveran is gone..i plan to use the container for p21s
 
Another note. I have hosed off dead bugs with Natty's and P21S. You can't do that with Souveran. The Natty's has even less dust attraction and better self cleaning ability than P21S.
 
"The Natty's has even less dust attraction and better self cleaning ability than P21S."



I'm not so sure about this even though Natty's is a good product. My P21S coat attracts very little dust...
 
I just recieved some nattys along with vanilla moose and ex-p today from specialtymotoring.com today. I have p21s and I just ordered some souveran and #16 from autopia! I will probably post somethin on everything once I've tried all the new stuff. As for p21s I don't get any dust with 3 coats of it over aio and sgx2 and it's long lasting. For dark colors it gives me more depth and for light colors it gives a glow.
 
I'm not so sure about this even though Natty's is a good product. My P21S coat attracts very little dust... [/B][/QUOTE]



That just been my experience with my wife's Silver TT. I guess the better dust attraction test would be on my black car.
 
OK

because there is just no way i,m paying $70 for a wax

P21s, S100 or natty's all have good reviews, plus there is a harley shop in town so guess which one i will be using..S100



Karl
 
I will just say that SOUVERN is in a league of its own.NOT for durability........................NATTYS to me gives a clear look not the wet look a black car will get from SOUVERN .S100 is not a product that I am so impressed with I think TS is a lot better but is 17 dollars more than S100
 
I just want clarification, has anyone compared P21S to Pinnacle Signature wax (for metallic) to each other on a metallic painted auto?:nixweiss
 
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