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wasaabi

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Sort of new to posting here but I've been lurking around for months. Anyway here's my 2002 Saab 9-5 that has tons of swirls. The products I use are





  1. Eagle One Wet Car Wash
  2. Mother's Clay Bar
  3. Meguiar's #7
  4. Mother's Cleaner Wax (came with the clay bar....yes yes I know)
  5. high quality waffle microfiber towel made in Korea
  6. Coleman Dual Action polisher that uses a terry cloth to apply wax (which I did not use in these pictures; I used Meguiar's foam pads by hand)



I have owned this car since new so I know that the paint is from the factory. The car looks like this after three weeks and three washes. I understand that wax will melt in the hot sun, but after the first wash the swirls started showing up. My question is Would switching to the Klasse twins hide the swirls for a longer period of time? Is there a more permanent way to keep the swirls out? There is also a bit of haze on my paint which I guess the Klasse should fix.



While I'm on the topic of removing the swirls, I might as well ask about the Porter Cable 7424. I plan to purchase the Klasse All-in-One and Klasse Sealant Glaze to put on top of Meguiar's #7 and use a PC 7424 + pad kit.



As for the pad kit, I'm not sure which one to get??? Sonus has TWO different lines (SFX Foam Polishing Pads and Dual-Action System Foam Pads) and I'm not sure which one is the one I'm looking for. There's also the SwirlBuster Foam Polishing Pad which doesn't seem to be included in either of their kits. I consider myself only a casual detailer, but I don't hesitate to spend 8 hours of my day on it, because I want the car to look good (I've done this a few times and am not afraid to spend time).



Please don't use too many acronyms on me since I don't get most of them. BTW what does LSP mean? Last step polish is my best guess..



and here are the pictures:



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Same spot as picture #2, +flash
 
theres seems to be some mix up with your product choice



#7 is a non abrasive glaze...so the cleaner wax will strip that right off, and so will aio



id suggest you purchase megs#83 and #80 to de swirl your paint with the pc machine, then hand apply aio and 2-3 coats of sealant glaze



i have the DAS pad set, it works fine for me, although i kinda get the impression the SFX kit is better



LSP= last step product/protection....so that would be sealant glaze id you chose to go that way



**edit no aio/sealant glaze wont do much to cover the swirls at all
 
I agree with steveo3002. Your product choice is not good. Fist clay bar does nothing for swirls. And mequiar's 7 is more abrassive. Take steveo's recommendation with mequaiar's #80 or #82. If you want a finish like no other, use

1. a fine foam cutting pad (high speed buffer) with #82 then

2. use an orbital with terry cloth bonnet with #82 then

3. wash vehicle then

4. use carnuaba paste wax apply by hand and remove by hand.
 
autoprecise1 said:
.. mequiar's 7 is more abrassive..
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Oops, I think you misspoke ;) Meg's #7 is functionally nonabrasive on automotive paint, even the soft black lacquer I used it on for years way back in the day.



wasaabi- But yeah, the general recommendations to use abrasive products like #83/#80/#82 are good. You need to abrade away the marring like sanding scratches out of a piece of wood.



The Klase twins tend to *highlight* marring for me, I only use them on vehicles I can get virtually perfect. I somehow doubt if you'll get/keep this one that nice (please don't take that as a slam). Washing a car without marring the finish is harder than most people would ever imagine (you might do a search on "foamgun" ;) ).



I myself would recommend 1Z polishes and a "heavy" carnauba such as Collinite 476S or Meg's #16 (if you can still find it), or maybe Meg's #26. IMO the 1Z polishes are much more user-friendly and are perfect for somebody without a lot of experience at this stuff. They work great by hand or PC and are available at PakShak. Carnaubas are more forgiving of flaws than synthetics are, that's why I recommend that route for your LSP.



IMO the biggest challenge will be to get the wash/dry regimen sorted out so you don't keep re-instilling the marring.
 
So I'm guessing start off with #83, or #80, and then go to #82, preferrably with a porter cable. I'm guessing I probably don't need #83 since the swirls are almost gone after a fresh wax.



Thanks, I like my plate too :woot2:



Thanks for all the replies, I read them all and now I just need to buy my Porter Cable and get started :waxing:
 
do a test section with #80 (thats the lighter cut) if after a couple of passes you still have swirls , the next choice would be #83



if you need #83 to get the swirls out , you may need to make a pass with #80 afterwards to make it perfect



forget #82
 
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