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bwalker25

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Well I got a flex l3403 vrg for Christmas and a lot of menzerna polishes (never used menzerna before)



Seeing as though I have never used them before or a rotary for that matter. I have read the thread by Todd, regarding jeweling / burnishing the finish with a soft 0 (zero) cut pad. But I have some questions:



Is this about right, for product pads / etc



Power Gloss = orange ccs / PFW

SIP = orange ccs or PFW (sometimes white on softer paints, I'll probably start with a white pad to begin with anyway until I get alot more experience)



I am aware of the Zenith Technique. However I get a little confused when attempting to finish up with a rotary. I have 85RD and 106fa, which one do I use to finish with if I am going for absolute perfection and the highest gloss possible, I assume its this way:



106fa = white ccs or blue ccs (blue if finishing with 106fa?)

85rd = blue ccs / red ccs



unless the paint is super soft (ie honda type), then I guess I can finish with just 106fa via rotary, but what are the odds of buffer trails / holograms?



I also have the wolfgang 3.0 paint sealant, I liked the slickness in the sample I got from AG this past summer.



Menzerna polishes are so different in there names than the hitemp products or the meguiars products, I just have to get used to them and until then I will have questions! :)



assuming I am correct with the above 106fa and 85rd and pad selections, it would be possible to jewel the surface with a rotary and it be hologram / buffer trail free? I believe Todd does this, and I would like to learn how to do this with the rotary ;)



I assume with the rotary you dont need near as much pressure than as you do with the PC/UDM, due to the nature of the rotary not being a DA polisher. So about 5-10 lbs of pressure (perhaps 5 lbs in addition to the weight of the machine is all thats needed?)



wow thanks for reading and woohoo I got a rotary ;)
 
bwalker25 said:
Well I got a flex l3403 vrg for Christmas and a lot of menzerna polishes (never used menzerna before)



Congrats! Work them until clear - appear to be "hologram" looking.



Seeing as though I have never used them before or a rotary for that matter. I have read the thread by Todd, regarding jeweling / burnishing the finish with a soft 0 (zero) cut pad. But I have some questions:



Is this about right, for product pads / etc



Power Gloss = orange ccs / PFW

SIP = orange ccs or PFW (sometimes white on softer paints, I'll probably start with a white pad to begin with anyway until I get alot more experience)



Yes, orange for correction and white for finishing. On softer paints (Subaru, Honda, Porsche) sometimes all you need is a white pad and 106FF, depends on the level of damage.



I am aware of the Zenith Technique. However I get a little confused when attempting to finish up with a rotary. I have 85RD and 106fa, which one do I use to finish with if I am going for absolute perfection and the highest gloss possible, I assume its this way:



106fa = white ccs or blue ccs (blue if finishing with 106fa?)

85rd = blue ccs / red ccs



Yes. Also, with some vehicles the "German" green ccs comes in handy when working with 106. 85rd also can be used in place of 106, with a white pad - need to try different combinations and see what works for you.



unless the paint is super soft (ie honda type), then I guess I can finish with just 106fa via rotary, but what are the odds of buffer trails / holograms?



Once again, depends on the vehicle, speed of rotary, technique etc. Running over the panel with a blue ccs will take care of it most of the time!



I also have the wolfgang 3.0 paint sealant, I liked the slickness in the sample I got from AG this past summer.



If you like sealants definitely try JetSeal109. Also, try Menzerna FMJ if you want slickness! Both look and last a few months!



Menzerna polishes are so different in there names than the hitemp products or the meguiars products, I just have to get used to them and until then I will have questions! :)



Oily, Oily, Oily!



assuming I am correct with the above 106fa and 85rd and pad selections, it would be possible to jewel the surface with a rotary and it be hologram / buffer trail free? I believe Todd does this, and I would like to learn how to do this with the rotary ;)



I assume with the rotary you dont need near as much pressure than as you do with the PC/UDM, due to the nature of the rotary not being a DA polisher. So about 5-10 lbs of pressure (perhaps 5 lbs in addition to the weight of the machine is all thats needed?)



No pressure, just control. Think of it as a roller coaster, you are along for the ride! After some experience with the Flex - you will get used to it.





wow thanks for reading and woohoo I got a rotary ;)
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Have fun with it :)
 
thanks martin and blk45. I have the chart already, its the naming of the compounds/polishes that confuses me a little bit, I have re-typed out the menzerna chart and its now in my toolbox for reference.....



thanks for the replies :)
 
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