small holes in clear coat after using SMR (pic)

blkyukon

blkyukon

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Has anyone see this? Or is it just a defect in the paint?



I used SMR with a yellow pad and finished it with IHG and it looked great except for all these small like holes in the paint.



Below are some pictures with the last being 3x magnified 5in away. Up close they look like little holes in the clear coat.



You can see them from this distance, but they don't show up in the pic

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Here they are close up

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and here they are magnified

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That is very odd - I've never heard of that problem as a result of SMR and/or IHG. Could you try using a little clay on an area to make sure that it's not some sort of debris?



Any chance it's etched in from something like acid rain? Acid rain etching is usually larger than that, but I suppose it could be from that... hmmmmm, very interesting...
 
NO WAY SMR did that. How old is the car? How many miles? could it be from Stone Chips? That's what it looks like, you just have so damn many of them!
 
That is very odd - I've never heard of that problem as a result of SMR and/or IHG. Could you try using a little clay on an area to make sure that it's not some sort of debris?
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I did clay it, it's not debris. It hard to show up in the pictures but some if it looks like little indentations in the clear coat.



I'm just wondering if it is a defect in the paint.



I don't know though because I don't remember seeing it before using SMR, maybe because the swirls were hiding them. Just wondering if anyone has seen this.
 
The more I look at it, it takes on a resemblance to clear coat failure (if it's really holes) - I remember seeing those on early-mid 90's GM cars quite a bit, back in the day...
 
That keep spilling over on the highway. I got stuck behind for about a 1km and my hood and front bumper where etched with that pattern.



I highly doubt the SMR cause it. Probably a case of it being hidden by surface oils etc.



You might get away with a light wet sanding or using a product that is bit stronger to level it.



Paco
 
NO WAY SMR did that. How old is the car? How many miles? could it be from Stone Chips? That's what it looks like, you just have so damn many of them!
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It's a year old, 10000 miles, they are not stone chips. It's hard to show exactly what they look like in the pictures. I took it at an angle that shows them the best, and the camera is showing them lighter then they are.







You might get away with a light wet sanding or using a product that is bit stronger to level it.
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I was thinking of using DACP to see if that does anything
 
On my old car, I had that but it was a result of being behind a sand truck. That keep spilling over on the highway. I got stuck behind for about a 1km and my hood and front bumper where etched with that pattern.
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It's not that it's all over the truck, it's just easier to get pictures of the hood.
 
Consult Scottwax on using DACP by hand. See if he thinks it might help ...



The more I look at them, the more I tend to agree that it may some sort of Clear failure. It looks more like pitting then actual damage as the edge's are well defined.



Do you live next to railroad tracks? A friend of my had something similar on his wheels that we later found out to be damage caused by iron fillings from living next to the tracks. He also had it in his paint but at the time, neither him nor I were into detailing.



The iron ended up rusting on his rims!



What make of car is that?



What products have you used?



Paco
 
Have a look at them with a magnifying glass or loupe. I'll bet its clearcoat failure.



The only other thing I can think of is something nasty was sprayed on it, maybe accidentally. Back in the day the State of California used an insecticide called Malithion to kill the Med. Fruit Fly which ate local crops. This stuff would damage paint in a similar fashion. It was sprayed over neighborhoods via helicopter and if your car was not covered or garaged, you were screwed. I'm not saying that's what happened to your paint but it is a possibility.
 
The more I look at them, the more I tend to agree that it may some sort of Clear failure. It looks more like pitting then actual damage as the edge's are well defined.
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That's what I'm wondering considering it's all over the truck



Do you live next to railroad tracks? A friend of my had something similar on his wheels that we later found out to be damage caused by iron fillings from living next to the tracks. He also had it in his paint but at the time, neither him nor I were into detailing.
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Nope, and it's always been garage parked.

What make of car is that?
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2002 GMC Yukon

What products have you used?
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I've used Zaino pretty much from the time I got the truck.

Used 3m SMR with PC and yellow pad to remove swirls and scratches, finished it off with IHG, washed with Dawn to remove oils and topped with 3 coats of Z5





What is clear coat failure?



If it is clear coat failure what can be done?



Does the warranty on the vehicle cover it?
 
That has nothing to do with SMR. Those can be paint defects that SMR helped to show by improving the paint visibility (shine) thsus making the defects more visible.



My car's hood is worst than that, I've used Menzerna's Intensive Polish and Fast Cut. I removed all swirls, but those micro spots remained there. Sometime, as I know that eventually it must be repainted, I'll try water sanding to see how it goes. Not for now, though.



For now I decided to protect it the best way possible and let it go.
 
1 year old only 10,000 miles. If it's still under warranty, I'd consult a professional body shop about the cause and then have the dealer fix that. Good luck man, I feel your pain...
 
Clear Failure can result from a great many things.



Many of my friends work at Chrysler on the line and the stories they tell me about things that go on...



The hood could have been dinged in production and they tried to fix it after it came off the line. Solvents may have compromised the coat.



Perhaps there was some type of residue left on the paint or the clear didn't adhere well for any number of reasons.



Guessing why would be impossible. But if it is clear failure and your car is less than 3 years of age, you should be able to get it covered under warranty.



Paco
 
1 year old only 10,000 miles. If it's still under warranty, I'd consult a professional body shop about the cause and then have the dealer fix that. Good luck man, I feel your pain...
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That sounds like what I'm going to do. I didn't think SMR would do something like this but wanted to see if anyone else has seen this. I think it might have always been there but was never able to see them because of light swirls and scratches.



I just wanted to make sure it wasn't my fault before I pursue this with the dealership I bought it from.



The dealer, threw in some paint and leather protectant when I bought it that if something happens to the paint , bird droppings, acid rain, etc. they will fix it or repaint it. So if it's something from the elements or clearcoat failure they should fix it under warranty.





Thanks guys!:)
 
I have the same problem on my black volkswagen. I thouhgt clay would be my answer, but no luck. I tried DACP then 3M SMR no luck either. Finish looks great but the spots are there. I don't know what do do next. I was thinking about going to a body shop to see what they thouhgt. It's hard to describe without seeing it.
 
I have exactly the same stuff on my doors on my Black Mustang. I can't seem to get it off, either. Nothing seems to touch it.



I started to think it was raildust, from shipping, embedded into the paint??
 
Silly question, but if you look at the glass, do you see similar marks? I'll tell you why, later. 3
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It's funny that you say that because I was thinking the same thing earlier to see if it was paint defect or from something else and, yes I do see it all over my sunroof, can't tell on the windshield because of the light, but definity on the sunroof.



What do you think it is?
 
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