Sixty-Nine Motown Muscle Duo: GTO vs Camaro SS

triptonite

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The other day I was reading some posts about a wax that doesn't leave a white residue on the trim and I was wondering if anybody knew off the top of their head what type of wax that is? I can't seem to remember where I found that. Is there more than one type of wax that will not leave a residue or stains on trim and mouldings?



Thanks for your input.
 
Yes, there is more than one type of wax that can do this, just be careful and if it does happen, use alcohol or peanut butter to remove it.



It's more of a pain than a problem.
 
A lot of the polymer sealants do not stain such as Klasse and Zaino.



Some have said the Souveran and PS21 do not stain all that much. DO a search on here for wax and stain and see what comes up. There is a wealth of info on this forum.



Good luck
 
Yes, plastic polish like Meguiars will remove the wax stain. I use it all the time to clean out the caked on wax on my PC. Now the machine look like new again.



Try it. Best of all the cleaner now has dual purpose.



:p
 
Triptonite, there are several waxes/polymers which do not stain rubber/plastic trimming.



Just off the top of my head, I can name:



Meguiar's #26 high tech yellow

3M SC Paste Wax

P21S

Souveran

Paste Glaze

Klasse

Zaino

Blackfire



I'm sure there are others.
 
Just a note,

IU have used Meguairs#26 for a long time with great sucess, but it has badly stained the trim on my BMW. I do love the finish it provied.



Just my $.02



:)
 
Correct about Souveran and P21S not leaving a white residue on your trim. But as any One Grand user can tell you the Blitz will leave a white residue on your trim.

Kasse will just make your trim look great. Leaves a nice shine on all the rubber trim. Enjoy!
 
Yes Steve, I still use carnauba over my Klasse. I put 2 coats of AIO and 5 coats of SG on my truck in the fall. Then I wax till it's too cold, or whenever the weather allows me to add a coat. I was lucky enough to be able to hand wash most of the winter, and get 3 more coats of wax over the SG at various times.

I use the Quarter car wash a lot to get the salt off , and I figure why not give up the coats of wax instead of the SG. It only take 40 to 45 minutes to add a coat of wax, and that will last 3 or 4 washes with the harsh chemicals of the car wash.

I usually use the Blitz, but the last coat was the P21S. It lasted 3 washes. I save the Souveran for a topper after the full spring detail.

I like wax over the Klasse, besides it's pure fun to add an extra coat when you can! Detailing is Therapy for this ol dude! Enjoy!
 
1969 was a great year for cars, not good for pavement. Big V8s with tons of torque, relaxed LEOs, lots of attitude made for fun leisurely rides down the boulevard. Here we have two of the vehicles that dominated said cruises, beautifully restored to perfect condition.

Both these vehicles were some of the cleanest vehicles we have ever seen. The 1969 Pontiac GTO is driven almost every weekend to local or semi-local car shows and gatherings. Notice the trophies on the wall ? just a sample, all for this Green Goat!

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Being driven regularly the car?s condition really stood out to us. Obviously very well restored to begin with, everything was clean and proper from the interior to the underbody. We stood in awe for awhile at the car, then at the walls.

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We had plenty of time to drool over this 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS. Having already worked on a few vehicles for this owner we had seen this and others in his collection many times. This vehicle is restored to a near 100% original condition, including correct overspray on chassis, bolt finishes, etc. The battery had to be upgraded. This vehicle is barely driven.

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Side by side we see just how nice these vehicles really are. The condition of both is superb.

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Although near perfect, both vehicles needed polishing to clear the finish of swirls and RIDS collected over time. The GTO had lighter swirling, but were somewhat deep. The SS had more defects with many swirls, areas of marring and severe RIDS. Neither of the finishes were original, and both were clear coat systems.

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Cleaning starts first. The GTO had a tighter budget so we were not able to do things like the door jambs and engine bay, while the SS got a hardcore door jamb treatment.

Tires are tackled first. White lettering turns brown with time and wear. Over the counter wheel and tire cleaners had not been able to clean them back to white. We simply uses some Meg?s APC+ at 4:1, and a good scrubbing with a brush followed by a scrub with a SchMitt.

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Just using brushes to clean tires can result in this:

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Black SchMitt:

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The Camaro?s tires had barely ever been dressed, and it showed. Although brown (a natural occurrence of rubber in air), they cleaned up with a brush quite nicely.

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The Camaro?s wheels were cleaned with Sticky Gel at 3:1

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The Pontiac?s wheels were cleaned with the same foam used for the paint:

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Next were the details. Emblems, jambs, crevices and seams were hit hard with P21S Total Auto Wash, Meg?s APC+ at 10:1, small brushes and high velocity water.

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No, the interior did not get wet during that last shot, and any overspray was wiped off and dried immediately (an advantage of having two people).


The paint on the Camaro was hard, so we did not hesitate to use a brush for the crevices. On most soft paints using a brush, even a soft one like this, can result in marring. When you clean emblems and creases use very light pressure. Let the chemical do the work, and opt for Q-Tips or smaller more focused brushes when the risk of marring is high.

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Nice and clean:

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Clay was next. Both vehicles has some contamination, but nothing like a typical modern driver.

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After a final wash and drying with both microfiber towels and a leaf blower used only for detailing (never used in a dirty enviroment) we were ready for polishing.

The GTO received a two-step polish. We taped up the hood and proceeded to try out some combinations. Here we are refining with a black pad:

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The Camaro also received a two-step polish although the owner was not looking for much correction. This would require a more aggressive combination. After trying a few, here is the result.

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Marc here is working on the upper curvature on the body. Although the paint requires a more aggressive pad, the curvature is too extreme for a pad to conform.

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This would result is straining the paint at the edges and not reaching the paint in the concave. A softer pad with a small backing plate permits some flexibility and much better surface contact. It would take many more passes, but well worth it. Notice how Marc preps the pad for polishing by priming the edges as well.

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A similar process was used for the spoiler, which has even more concavity.

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The rain channels needed polishing as well. Marc applied both M105 and M205 to foam applicators and squeezed it into the gutter to polish.

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Refining under the LED Brinkman:

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Paint after polishing prior to sealing, looking under Halogens:

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Next was a final wash to rid the paint from polishing oils and the crevices from dust.

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Windy!

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LSP for the GTO was a Dodo Juice Rainforest Rub carnuba wax. Running out of time we were not able to get pictures of the application process. Similar to our other applications of sealants, laying it on the paint nice and thin using the PC is our preferred method. The GTO will be driven much more than the Camaro, and will be outside more of its time. So sealants were the logical choice.

For the Camaro we opted to use a wax appropriate for the vehicle:

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The top was cared for with 1Z Cockpit Premium as no additional shine was desired. The 1Z offers a minimal amount of UV protection, and the owner would be caring for it in the future with 303.

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The flat black trim was dressed with Meg?s Spray Trim Detailer and a soft brush, then buffed even. Mike Phillips from Meguiar?s recommended that I use this product on flat back a few years ago and it never fails. It evens out even more as it dries further.

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Applied to the bumper trim as well:

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The chrome metalwork was polished and waxed:

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Finally, the reveal:

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Insane shine!

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Two of the same picture white balanced differently. It is hard to capture the color in low light.

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Tires were dressed with a water-based matte tire dressing, Optimum Tire Shine.

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Reveal Camaro:

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The vehicle's color combined with the bright light makes for difficult pictures as well.

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Thank you for reading!

-AutoLavish

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Incredible work, once again, guys! Those cars look incredible, I always look forward to your writeups.

Regarding the Meg?s Spray Trim Detailer, have you ever used that product on flat black wheels? I have a customer with flat black wheels and I was wondering if there was something else available other than Swissvax Opaque.

Thanks for another great writeup!

-Kody-
 
BRAVO!!!
You did it again Marc. Every time I look at one of your write ups, I always say to myself that this one can't be topped. But then, you post up another one, and it happens all over again. I feel like I am watching Groundhog Day....:biggrin:
Beautiful detail on both cars. If I said it once, I have said it a thousand times, there is nothing like American Muscle.
Awesome job, and thanks for taking the time to post it here Marc.:rockon:
 
Looking forward to viewing this post and others like it in more depth when I get home from work; however with posts like this it makes it hard to get my work done.....

Simply a...m...a...z...i...n...g...
 
Great work and an even better write up on some really awesome cars! I'm inspired to go polish something right now!(*glances sheepishly between dog and air compressor*)
 
Awesome work once again Marc and Jacob! Your writes up are always a joy to read, very informative, and just as Todd stated, very motivational! I'm actually excited to go polish tonight! :D


:rockon:
 
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