SG such a pain... leaves some haze??

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imported_nadir

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I apply SG by hand. .. and man it sucks!



so hard to buff off. Whatever I buff off, it leaves a slight haze behind. The next day, I notice it, and it will sort of come off if I run my finger on the paint.



will this go away after washing the car a week later?





also, can SG applied by an orbital ... if so, what pad??



maybe I should just get a microfiber bonet to do the buff/off by orbital??
 
I can't agree with guys more. I can't stand SG for exactly the reason you are talking about. From what I've been told, the most common mistake we make when applying SG is by applying too much. This is very easy to do since it's so watery and is basically clear so you can't really see how much you are actually putting on.



I've been told to use so little that you almost feel like you aren't putting anything on at all, and just do multiple coats. Kind of like painting something. Very thin layers, multiple times.



Some people put it in a spray bottle and lightly mist an applicator to apply by hand and some people find it works best when applied via PC with a finishing pad.



Quantity of product aside, another thing that can affect SG is heat, cold, and/or humidity. This pretty much goes for any protectant, but even more so with SG. Always apply in the shade and try to avoid hot (or too cold) surface temps, which will almost bake it on. SG is NOT sunlight friendly, IMO.



One last factor is how long you wait to remove it. You can do the wowo method like Burlyq suggested which works great for a lot of people, or you have to wait at *least* an hour before removing. I've even heard that leaving it on for 24 hours (indoors, of course) before removing it is best.



Basically, either remove it immediately or wait at least an hour. If you try to take it off anywhere in between it will be at its hardest stage for removal.



OR you can just use SG for protecting your wheels and choose another sealant that's much easier to deal with like I do.
 
Give Menzerna FMJ a try, I was a SG user for awhile and you will be amazed at the results of FMJ with better slickness and removal without residue!
 
I recently finished re adding 5 coats of SG. Yes, you must apply it so thin you can't even see it on the paint. You really should wait at least several hours before attempting to buff it off. Most of my applications were 12 hour intervals, the first was a full 24 and only the last two were 4-5 hours in between each other.



Following Accumulator's tip I also use my breath to help buff it off.
 
Apply it thin and WOWO.....works for me every time and outlasts everything by months (never tried Z though). I have only used it on 3 different cars but is has always been one of the easiest products I use. Maybe I have just been lucky but i really love the Klasse tiwns.
 
Don't worry, the part that needs to be dry will be.



If you do a quick search using "wowo method" you will find a lot of helpful past discussions.
 
Sorry to hear people are having trouble with SG. I'm not much one for saying people should struggle to master a product (I'd rather say to use one of the other great products on the market), but the Klasse twins *do* have a lot going for them so maybe a little struggling with it is warranted.



In my experience the whole trick to using SG is to put it on very thin. So thin you can't really see it on the paint. So thin that my minivan takes far less than one ounce. Yes, this will be enough for a good "coat". While I always apply multiple layers, I've let the first coat suffice for weeks before adding more. I apply by hand with a foam applicator and I remove with suede-style MF (either by hand or using the PC/Cyclo with bonnets), fogging the surface with my breath as Bill D mentioned. I let it set up for at least a few hours and usually over night before I buff it off. Might not be as easy as Souveran, but I've never considered it to be difficult or problematic either.
 
JDookie said:
Some people put it in a spray bottle and lightly mist an applicator to apply by hand and some people find it works best when applied via PC with a finishing pad.

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Kind of glad to see this thread pop up right now, actually. I just purchased a bottle of SG in preparation for my first experience trying it out a few weeks from now.



My plan had been to apply by hand and buff off with a PC with an MF bonnet over a blue pad. Or is this the road to ruin?



Has anyone tried putting SG in a mister and misting the surface...then just spreading it with a suede/terry applicator pad? Or, will this be too much?







....BH
 
I've been using the Klasse twins for some months now and I've had no problems with either and very happy with the results.

After reading the various threads on Autopia, I took the advice and always applied the SG very, very thin using a MF applicator pad which has been pre-dampened with water and well wrung out. (A tiny spot - dime sized - of the SG on the MF pad will easily do a panel.)

The instructions in the bottle state that it should be allowed to dry and then wiped off. So I usually do the whole car then I use a concours MF bonnet on an Orange Sonus DAS pad with the PC. (I have also used a Concours MF towel for hand removal) The result has been OK every time with no hazing.

Hope this helps?
 
Just used SG for the first time on the body of a car (before just used on wheels) and I have to say it's definitely not as hard as some make it out to be. First app I used a foam app and second time used a mf app. MUCH easier coming off when applied w/a mf app, allows for an easier thin application. i also found that once you get past the first application the subsequent ones are considerably easer to take off. Also found that it becomes much slicker 30 mins or so after removal.



i've also found it excellent on wheels!
 
SG is great for durability but in comparison to so many other products it is a pain. I just did the nose of my van today with it as I'm going to be taking a fairly long trip and wanted the extra protection for bugs etc. Unless you really want durability or hate doing your vehicle often I think so many other products add as much gloss and are much easier to work.

I'm afraid Klasse will be my wheel wax from here on. Maybe the problem is that they haven't kept up with the new products for ease of use.
 
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