Salmon Fishing in Alaska

basswood

basswood

Atlanta
Based on some recent recommendations, I purchased (from PBMG) Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner and Amazing Roll Off.

The Sonax WAS fun to watch change color as it did its thing. Other than price, not sure how that differs from IronX. It still needed agitation to get the wheels clean. Soap and water would have possibly done as well.

On to ARO (different car) for the wheel wells, tires and wheels. Meh. Still needed agitation for any results. Probably could have achieve the same result with soap and water.

I have previously used Poor Boys Spray & Rinse with spectacular results. Spray, yup - rinse, yup, ALL grime gone from the wheels with no agitation. My major concern with PB S&R is that it seems to be very aggressive. The oem calipers started showing "rust" looking areas where none were showing prior to using PB S&R.

When I went salmon fishing in Alaska a few years ago this, at that time, Connecticut Yankee, did not bring his gear along. Local knowledge is key. I went into a tackle shop on Kodiak Island and asked for a recommendation on which lures to use. He brought me to the pegboard lure wall; 8 feet high by 20 feet wide...all lures. He said "you need this one, this one and this one. I asked "what about all of these other lures?"
His answer was...

"m' lad, always remember that lures are designed to catch fishermen, not fish."

Best regards,
Tom
 
Copy. Point well taken. Off subject, how long were you there? I don't fish but I think I would try that. I was in Alaska back in 95. Just didn't get to go fishing tho.
 
Tom -

Loved the story ! :)

I have a bottle of Amazing Roll Off, and like you, figured out that the only thing that Rolled Off was the $$ I paid for just nothing special here.. Amazing!!! :)

Your OEM calipers - are they painted a color, or just metal looking gray, etc.. ?

Some products will remove what little coating is on these to prevent them from rusting and then - well, you know the rest..

I have had a few Clients in the past, have me take their dull, lifeless looking, ordinary, Brake Calipers, and clean and paint them up with some nice Caliper paint, and that right away took any rust issues out.

Always tried to steer them into using a color that closely matched what was already on there, or they would be looking at them and noticing how dirty they sometimes get..

If the calipers have to be removed and taken apart and cleaned and painted, then the brakes would have to be bled in case air was introduced into the brake lines, so there is that...

And then, some cars like BMW have an ABS module that has to be bled and this cant be done at home since it requires the BMW Computer at the Shop to tell the Module to cycle...

Dan F
 
basswood said:
"m' lad, always remember that lures are designed to catch fishermen, not fish."
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Great story! I've got to remember that one.

basswood said:
Sonax WAS fun to watch change color as it did its thing. Other than price, not sure how that differs from IronX. It still needed agitation to get the wheels clean. Soap and water would have possibly done as well.
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Sonax FE and Iron X are amazing products for what they're designed to do - remove ferrous metal particles from surfaces. I'm a fan of both and use them accordingly when needed.

For what it worth, To me need to agitate means:
  • Even coverage - no chance of streaking
  • A product that isn't harmfully strong to me or the surface I'm applying it to
Once you're rims are clean, coating them with a wheel sealant like DP's Wheel sealant will make future clean ups possible with only soap and water.

Owning a BMW and dealing with their notorious OEM brake dust issues has made me go through a ton of trial and error on how best to keep them clean. Using Sonax FE, followed by claying and then DP Wheel Coating every 6 months or so allows me to get away with using regular old car soap during maintenance washes. And it save $ by reducing the need for reapplication of Sonax FE or Iron X.

An added benefit of using a coating is it leaves your rims with a nice deep gloss:

 
basswood said:
Based on some recent recommendations, I purchased (from PBMG) Sonax Full Effect Wheel Cleaner and Amazing Roll Off.

The Sonax WAS fun to watch change color as it did its thing. Other than price, not sure how that differs from IronX. It still needed agitation to get the wheels clean. Soap and water would have possibly done as well.

On to ARO (different car) for the wheel wells, tires and wheels. Meh. Still needed agitation for any results. Probably could have achieve the same result with soap and water.

I have previously used Poor Boys Spray & Rinse with spectacular results. Spray, yup - rinse, yup, ALL grime gone from the wheels with no agitation. My major concern with PB S&R is that it seems to be very aggressive. The oem calipers started showing "rust" looking areas where none were showing prior to using PB S&R.
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Sonax Wheel Cleaner is only a wheel cleaner. It does a great job even diluted. I dilute Sonax 1:1 with distilled water so it turns out to cost much less than Iron X.

Iron X is an iron remover that can be used on paint, metal and can even be used as a wheel cleaner; making it a much more versatile product. Try using Sonax on the paint and it will become very clear there is a difference between Sonax and Iron X. Todd Helme compared the two in the Iron Remover Comparison Throw Down.

I always expect to agitate the wheels with any wheel cleaner that I use, even if the product says it will work simply by spraying and rinsing. Brake dust is nasty stuff (primarily composed of iron and carbon, to create a nasty caustic compound) and I like to make sure it's completely off the wheels to avoid any damage. Iron can embed itself into the clearcoat, and at that point soap and water won't cut it. Then you'll need an iron remover like Iron X.

I've only used Amazing Roll Off as a tire cleaner not a wheel cleaner.

basswood said:
When I went salmon fishing in Alaska a few years ago this, at that time, Connecticut Yankee, did not bring his gear along. Local knowledge is key. I went into a tackle shop on Kodiak Island and asked for a recommendation on which lures to use. He brought me to the pegboard lure wall; 8 feet high by 20 feet wide...all lures. He said "you need this one, this one and this one. I asked "what about all of these other lures?"
His answer was...

"m' lad, always remember that lures are designed to catch fishermen, not fish."

Best regards,
Tom
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Hmm I think he just gave you a simple answer for a quick and simple transaction. In fishing, like detailing I think theres always the right tool for the job. Those three lures he recommended may work great in Alaska for what you were fishing for at that time, but they may not work at all here in Florida. They may not even work there in Alaska in a few weeks as bait fish change in size and color depending on the season.

When I go fishing for Snook I use a top action lure (Mirrolure Top Dog is my favorite) because Snook feed primarily on bait in the upper column of water. If I want a Redfish for dinner, I'll use a lure that works in the bottom column of water. I like DOA Glow Shrimp. If I was a serious fisherman, I may change the color of my lure depending on the color of the water or other variables - but I'm not. But I guess there are different strokes for different folks. If you're happy with soap and water and using three lures in your tacklebox, I think that's great.
 
Vega@Autopia said:
Hmm I think he just gave you a simple answer for a quick and simple transaction. In fishing, like detailing I think theres always the right tool for the job. Those three lures he recommended may work great in Alaska for what you were fishing for at that time, but they may not work at all here in Florida. They may not even work there in Alaska in a few weeks as bait fish change in size and color depending on the season.

When I go fishing for Snook I use a top action lure (Mirrolure Top Dog is my favorite) because Snook feed primarily on bait in the upper column of water. If I want a Redfish for dinner, I'll use a lure that works in the bottom column of water. I like DOA Glow Shrimp. If I was a serious fisherman, I may change the color of my lure depending on the color of the water or other variables - but I'm not. But I guess there are different strokes for different folks. If you're happy with soap and water and using three lures in your tacklebox, I think that's great.
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Vega m' lad,

I realize that you are in business to sell product. Perhaps my avenue to the point I was trying to make was a tad vague. In my opinion, detailing product like fishing lures, are designed to sneak some $$ out of the wallets of detailers.

I'm not saying that's a bad concept as we do live in a capitalist society.

Btw, thank you for the tutorial on lures. I've been fishing fresh and salt water for over 60 years and learned something new.

Best regards,
Tom
 
jtford95 said:
Off subject, how long were you there? I don't fish but I think I would try that. I was in Alaska back in 95. Just didn't get to go fishing tho.
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10 days in the mid 90's. One day travel each end (from Connecticut) so 8 days station time. Flew in to Anchorage and spent two nights. Flew to Kodiak and spent a night. Short plane ride to Afognak Island (part of Kodiak Island) and stayed at Afognak Wilderness Lodge. The story of how that place came into existence is amazing.

Great fishing. Salmon up the gazoo and a 130 lb halibut...from the dock! Had to chase it with the boat and shoot it dead before boating it. It would have destroyed the 26' boat if brought on alive.

All fish was frozen at the lodge. Freezers at the Anchorage Airport while waiting for the flight. Sarah Palin knows about tourist $$$.😂 (I know she wasn't there at the time) Fish was still pretty frozen upon return to CT.

Left 25 lbs of salmon there to have it smoked. Got it a couple of weeks later. Whaddya' think...yummy? OMG!

Best,
Tom
 
basswood said:
10 days in the mid 90's. One day travel each end (from Connecticut) so 8 days station time. Flew in to Anchorage and spent two nights. Flew to Kodiak and spent a night. Short plane ride to Afognak Island (part of Kodiak Island) and stayed at Afognak Wilderness Lodge. The story of how that place came into existence is amazing.

Great fishing. Salmon up the gazoo and a 130 lb halibut...from the dock! Had to chase it with the boat and shoot it dead before boating it. It would have destroyed the 26' boat if brought on alive.

All fish was frozen at the lodge. Freezers at the Anchorage Airport while waiting for the flight. Sarah Palin knows about tourist $$$.�� (I know she wasn't there at the time) Fish was still pretty frozen upon return to CT.

Left 25 lbs of salmon there to have it smoked. Got it a couple of weeks later. Whaddya' think...yummy? OMG!

Best,
Tom
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Where in ct?
 
Stokdgs said:
Tom -



Your OEM calipers - are they painted a color, or just metal looking gray, etc.. ?

Some products will remove what little coating is on these to prevent them from rusting and then - well, you know the rest..


Dan F
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Ahh, that probably was the issue. I did not realize that there was a coating to prevent rust. They were originally OEM gray.

The rust look was driving me crazy so I had the calipers done in black to match the car. Red, yellow calipers look fabulous on some cars but I didn't think that would work for me.

I've shied away from PB S&R but may go back to it now that you've shed some light on the situation. I REALLY liked how it worked.

Thanks again for your input.

Sincerely.
Tom
 
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