Rust problem

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danz24

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Any idea on how I can mitigate or prevent further damage?

Its been there for about two years.



I live in Canada so some product which I can get locally would be nice.
 
Totally agreed with Accumulator... that rust area is way too far gone to be handled without some extensive work by a professional. Most DIYers -- even experienced ones -- wouldn't be able to tackle that without pro-grade equipment and the knowledge to properly use it.
 
There is no "quick fix". The rust started from the inside, due to the manner in which the vehicle was constructed.

Over years, salt, dirt, etc collected around a seam or flange and most likely the area was where there was either none or little e-coat.

Only real fix, cut out the area, weld in new metal, after body finishing, apply an acid-etch primer, paint finishes, then atomize a quality cavatity wax in to the internal cavatity.

This is a common concern, be it the US or Canada.

Honda's and Acura's had a real problem in the 80's and through the 90's around the fuel door, due to a piece of foam they put inside that area, it collected and held the corossives and moisture.

Chrysler's van's were also prone to this around the rear wheel lip, tail gate, etc.

There are many other manufacturers who have seen this happen to their vehicles as well.
 
These weren't the replies I expected. but ones that I have to accept.



I understand that to effectively deal with this I need to take it to a professional. However, I cannot afford that at the moment.

Are there no other remedies I can do, despite it being a hack job but still somewhat of an improvement? Maybe like paint over it, peel out the paint to prevent further rust etc.?
 
danz24 said:
Are there no other remedies I can do, despite it being a hack job but still somewhat of an improvement? Maybe like paint over it, peel out the paint to prevent further rust etc.?
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IF all you're looking for is a cosmetic improvement, then yes you could theoretically grind off the paint and rust from that area, apply a rust converting primer, and paint over it with black paint to make it not stick out quite so obviously; however the rust will still continue to spread from the back side as Ron mentioned. The "repair" won't last long at all.
 
Answer: LKQ Quarter Section from a salt and rust free state.

Otherwise buy a little life and take it to Maaco for their Ambassador Special.
 
There's a lot of rust under all those bubbles.

I'm in Western Canada, Vancouver Island, B.C. and locally Rust-Mort is quite popular. The local Napa guys have it.

It converts rust into some black/gray hard stuff that doesn't rust any more. Or at least, not easily any more. Give it a try, it may give you a few more years of rustlessness.

-John C.
 
Yeah, the DIY approach would be to:



- remove as much of the rotted metal as you can

- rust-convert what's left and seal with something like Rust Mort, Rust Bullet, Rust Encapsulator, POR15, etc.

- patch the hole where the missing metal was with some kind of patch (fiberglass, etc.) that'll stick to the rust sealer stuff

- apply more rust sealer stuff as a primer

- apply some rust sealer-compatible putty to smooth things out a bit

- apply more primer

- apply paint



Yeah, it's a mighty half-@$$ed "fix" and those quote marks are intentional as it won't last forever. It can sometimes turn out better than one might expect, but again, this case is soooo extreme that I honestly think it's a waste of time/effort/money to try it. And FWIW, I'm usually in favor of doing such stuff to beaters, I've even done it to a mechanic pal's service loaner that I liked and knew I'd be driving for a while. But this case is just so far gone.....
 
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