Rust - Baja Bronco - Part 2

[LeMarque]

So, the owner of the Bronco I posted about here http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing/145877-72-baja-bronco-matte-paint-plasti-coat-repainted-hood.html is expecting/wanting me to eliminate the rust on the windshield hinge:







He's even gone ahead and bought the touch-up paint :faint2:



I was thinking of just using IronX or some other rust remover 'cause I noticed this:







And I'm feeling like the car really deserves more than camouflage and should go back to a skilled paint and body man but that ain't gonna happen any time soon. If I understand the results of a Rust Converter, I'm going to end up with the hinge looking like it's been primed and then the best I could do is mask everything off and go to my trusty airbrush.



I really would like to IronX it or something and maybe leave it like that or spray some clear after the rust 'removal':noidea:



If this rolled into your shop, what steps would you take? :help:

 

[Ron Ketcham]

Hinge, remove and media blast, then apply an acid etch primer, then repaint.

Not exactly sure of just where the second photo is of the vehicle, however, that is a "major concern" and such products like Iron-x in this case is just a little band-aid.

That rusting appears to be perforation, which means it is coming from behind the metal and paint. That is a completely different concern and a completely different repair process.

 

[LeMarque]

Hinge, remove and media blast, then apply an acid etch primer, then repaint.

Thanks Ron. But from what I understand the windshield is bolted on and more often then not, to remove it, it's recommended to drill out the factory welds from that lower hinge. If he'd had brought it to me months ago, when I first saw it at a buddies garage, I might have started the project, chosen a paint shop, and followed it thru to completion. But as it stands now, with the show right around the corner, I don't have the time or stress level. The owner's very successful in his field and I'm surprised at his cavalier attitude since he's a collector of sorts.

Not exactly sure of just where the second photo is of the vehicle, however, that is a "major concern" and such products like Iron-x in this case is just a little band-aid. That rusting appears to be perforation, which means it is coming from behind the metal and paint. That is a completely different concern and a completely different repair process.[/B]

That's looking up at the underside of the roof from the right rear of the car. I'll pass along your advice but I think it will fall on deaf ears ...

 

[Ron Ketcham]

In that case, hit it with some HF acid, rinse good, polish what you can and kiss it off.

The HF will remove the rust stains real quick, just don't let it drip down on other things, and to be safe, water wet the other areas real good and then apply a good coating of any carwash soap on the other parts, not the parts you are going to remove the rust stains from, then rinse it off as soon as you can.

 

[Accumulator]

LeMarque- If you're going to, uhm...half-@$$ the rust repair, look into Rust Bullet and products from KBS Coatings. I've used these with sometimes amazing results so take that "half-@$$" bit in a good-natured way.



Eastwood also sells some good stuff for rust work, but for jobs where a) it's somewhat visible and b) you're really trying to do the impossible, the Rust Bullet and KBS stuff both work better for me.



And no, I *DO NOT* like/use (any more)/recommend POR-15 as IME the others I mentioned are a lot better.



I've stopped "no way to fix that, buy a new panel..." type rust with Rust Bullet and it's still 100% fixed (OK, make that "arrested" if "fixed" is a stretch) after quite a while, including winters. Did OK with the others too, but if you're gonna pick just one I'd go with the Rust Bullet.



Clean, expose/scrape, and acid-treat the rust (my fave product for this is "Metal Blast". Use 2-4 coats of the Rust Bullet as primer. Apply touchup paint. Be amazed at how well this can work



No, it's not the "correct solution". But again, it really has worked for me and I don't mean "looked OK for six months", I mean long-term.

 

[LeMarque]

Thanks guys.



I went with a sample kit from KBS. HF I'll order after I read up on safety since I've never used it before. Will post back results.

 

[Accumulator]

Thanks guys.



I went with a sample kit from KBS. HF I'll order after I read up on safety since I've never used it before. Will post back results.

Just finished using their RustSeal and Diamond Finish on some suspension bits, the latter will be ready for a second coat in about an hour