replacement for lube from clay barring

Some soapy water works fine. Straight water isn't slick enough to use as a lube. Put some car wash soap in there and it gets slick real quick. Also, like thinksnow said, any other qd will work too.
 
I almost never use any clay-specific "lube" or ever a substitute QD. My normal routine is to clay the car during the wash, using the soapy water as lubricant. I'll usually mix up a solution of soap and water in a spray bottle. Works just as good as those expensive lubes and QDs IMO.
 
Try putting a tiny bit (experiment) of car shampoo back in the empty bottle and filling with distilled/bottled water. More economical and just as easy as the lube.



du3ce said:
ok cool i guess i'll use the car wash soap since im too lazy to buy some more qd
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Use the soapy water during the wash to lube the claybar. Then go over the car again with the wash mitt before rinsing. Make sure things don't dry up on you while you do this. Best to do this in the shade.
 
If you want a place to start with soap/water mix, I've used 10:1 soap/water and it worked well.
 
I use a capful of Zaino's car wash soap in a spray bottle of water...maybe 12 ounces of water. Works well as a lube, and dries clear.
 
i have another question, should i use dawn to strip all the wax off before i clay? or will the clay take off the wax for me?
 
du3ce said:
i have another question, should i use dawn to strip all the wax off before i clay? or will the clay take off the wax for me?
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Clay will not remove the wax. It grabs and pulls off bonded contaminants.



After I clay, I rely on MPPC to remove dirt, oxidation, minor swirls and old wax.



I wash then clay if needed. I follow that up with MPPC.
 
I believe the consensus is clay removes the majority of sealant/wax, due to its abrasive nature. Not abrasive as in removing clear coat, but surely it does remove a portion of protection......Always follow up with a cleaner and sealant.....
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
I believe the consensus is clay removes the majority of sealant/wax, due to its abrasive nature. Not abrasive as in removing clear coat, but surely it does remove a portion of protection......Always follow up with a cleaner and sealant.....
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I don't concur with that "consensus". If you observe the clay floating on the lubrication there is not much abrasion taking place except where the contaminants are protruding. I always wash my car after claying and the water still beads up and the surface still feels slick. Both good signs that there is still a coating of wax or sealant on the paint.



I would not count on a claying to remove previous wax. That's the job of the cleaner, MPPC in my case, to remove remaining wax and any oxidation.
 
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I don't concur with that "consensus". If you observe the clay floating on the lubrication there is not much abrasion taking place except where the contaminants are protruding. I always wash my car after claying and the water still beads up and the surface still feels slick. Both good signs that there is still a coating of wax or sealant on the paint.
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Q6. Will clay remove my wax? A6. In most cases, clay will "scrub off" wax protection. Some paint sealants are hard enough to withstand being cleaned with clay, but most are not.
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This was on the minicarcare.com site, which i believe has Davids permission to publish this statement......This more or less verifies mine and other Autopian findings.....Happy Detailing
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
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This was on the minicarcare.com site, which i believe has Davids permission to publish this statement......This more or less verifies mine and other Autopian findings.....Happy Detailing
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Believe what you will Patrick, but an old addage that I go by says: "Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see." So I tend to test things for myself.



I don't think clay has any special coating properties to cause water to bead or the finish to feel slippery and yet after I clay I wash and the water beads a lot and the surface feels slippery. Once I was interrupted in this process by rain and the car beaded well and I didn't get to finish the job for three days. You know what? The water was still beading. I conclude that the coatings are not removed by claying. I would concede that some small amount could be removed by the friction but the clay rides pretty easily on the lube. There is less friction there than rubbing a dry microfiber across the paint.
 
Jfelbab, to each their own.

My feeling is the only reason that you are feeling such slickness is because all of the contaminants have been removed. Your not feeling protection, your feeling raw virginity......Surface has been wiped clean of any imperfections..

The reason your seeing beading may be in fact due to the lubricants residue, i.e. silicone, carnauba, or some other type of slip agent.....
 
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