Removing Klasse Sealant Glaze Residue

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zzzzdoc

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Tried Klasse Sealant Glaze for the first time last night. Unfortunately, in my now too well lit garage at night.



By the light of day it looks like I have a decent amount of residue left from it, which is tenacious as hell.



And yes, I knew to apply it sparingly. Just didn't imagine it was THAT sparingly.



Any tricks to remove the residue? Tried Speed Shine with a MF cloth with little success. Hoping for an easy method that doesn't involve massive amounts of elbow grease.
 
Make a 1:6 mixture of the SG with water. Spray this mixture onto a MF cloth, wipe over the area with the residue, then immediately wipe with a clean, dry MF or cotton cloth.



The SG/water mix will resolubilize the SG, and you can then wipe it off.



Should be pretty simple. Also, search the forum for information on the WOWO procedure for SG - I found this worked best for me.
 
Interesting. What happens if I don't even buff off the KSG and after it dries, then repeat with another coat of KSG? Will that remove the haze?



I realize that for the last coat, you would actually have to remove it. Perhaps a WOWO for the last coat.
 
You shouldn't have a problem.



In my experience, if you've waited for the SG to dry overnight, it should be easy to buff off, or to add another layer. I can't think of any reason that you would need to wipe off the first layer of excess before applying a 2nd layer.



The SG seems to have a time between WOWO, and completely dry, where it is sticky, tacky, and hard to remove. If you resolubilize it, or wait 'till it's completely (overnight) dry, then it wipes off easily.
 
zzzzdoc said:
Interesting. What happens if I don't even buff off the KSG and after it dries, then repeat with another coat of KSG? Will that remove the haze?



I realize that for the last coat, you would actually have to remove it. Perhaps a WOWO for the last coat.
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Don't apply more KSG and let it dry, that'll make things worse. Use the newly applied KSG as a solvent *only*. Don't worry, you'll still have the regular, sufficient amount of KSG actually bonded to the paint, you're just taking off excess. You need to remove that excess before you can layer on more product anyhow.



This is the "like dissolves like" approach and it often works quite well. Yeah, use the W-O-W-O method, the idea here is for the new KSG to dissolve the existing residue, not add more KSG, not do anything else...just dissolve the existing dried-on excess.



Rub the new KSG into the existing residue until the residue softens. Then buff off everything that'll come off. Inspect, repeat as needed. If only a *little* residue remains, you can probably just use a MF damp with water instead of more KSG.



The SpeedShine is carnauba-based and won't work well for this particular job. Other QDs (e.g., Meguiar's #34) will work.
 
I tried putting SG on with the good ol pc...goes on nice and thin...let dry for about an hour, and it just wipes off. A little buffing is necessary in a few spots, but for the most part, she's on pretty thin.
 
The key to KSG is to let it sit on the paint for 12-24 hours. I know this is contrary to popular belief of KSG removal techniques, and even sealants in general...but seriously, if you have the time to let it sit for a day, removal will be easier.
 
Go over your car with a Detail spray such as Sonus spritz and it will remove the haze. You can also try Sonus Glanz which works as well.
 
Grease is spot on. I applied fireglaze DS yesterday then Klasse HGSG this morning and my technique is to get a microfibre korea (brand) suede towel and soak it in really hot water

Wring it out and go over the car lightly and remove residue with a plush towel (not a monster)

It comes off really easy.

All sealants I apply are left to sit overnight before removal and later in the day, another coat goes on



Of course I had my 1:6 Klasse HGSG spray right there if I needed it and could of put more on the surface but didn't need it
 
Tried the 1:6 mixture. Worked like a charm.



Now trying the leaving on for 24 hour deal. Tomorrow hopefully that will work as well.
 
grease said:
The key to KSG is to let it sit on the paint for 12-24 hours. I know this is contrary to popular belief of KSG removal techniques, and even sealants in general...but seriously, if you have the time to let it sit for a day, removal will be easier.
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Menzerna's FMJ is pretty easy to use...I don't think I've seen anything wipe off so easily before..
 
Personally I think Pinnacle Four Star UPP is a pleasure to use. Much easier than the KSG. But alway's interested in learning different ways.



Which provides better protection / gloss in people's opinions?



Only 4 more hours until I can test how easily the KSG will come off.
 
zzzzdoc said:
Personally I think Pinnacle Four Star UPP is a pleasure to use. Much easier than the KSG. But alway's interested in learning different ways.



Which provides better protection / gloss in people's opinions?
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I also love the look and ease of UPP...but I think KSG is more durable hands down.
 
Accumulator said:
The SpeedShine is carnauba-based and won't work well for this particular job. Other QDs (e.g., Meguiar's #34) will work.
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This leads to another interesting question:



Which of the QD sprays are carnauba-based and which are (it it acrylic?) based?
 
zzzzdoc said:
Personally I think Pinnacle Four Star UPP is a pleasure to use. Much easier than the KSG. But alway's interested in learning different ways.



Which provides better protection / gloss in people's opinions?
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I use KSG on the MPV and UPP on the S8. The KSG is infinitely more durable but I like the look of the UPP a lot better. IMO a big part of the UPP's protection is the slickness, which keeps [stuff] from sticking to it. That drops off rather quickly, so I end up reapplying the UPP pretty often. KSG OTOH seems to stay the same for a long, long time, and a gentle claying with Sonus green can refresh it even if you don't have time to apply another (new) coat of the SG.



And yeah, I too like to let KSG set up overnight before I buff it off (except when I use it on plastic trim).
 
zzzzdoc said:
Personally I think Pinnacle Four Star UPP is a pleasure to use. Much easier than the KSG. But alway's interested in learning different ways.



Which provides better protection / gloss in people's opinions?



Only 4 more hours until I can test how easily the KSG will come off.
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How did the KSG come off?



Charlie
 
zzzzdoc,

Sonus Acrylic Spritz is of course acrylic based and I can tell you from my experience it works great with KSG. It adds a bit of gloss as well. Some people on this forum actually use a homemade brew of KSG and distilled water at various ratios( 1:10 etc) as a QD.

Also, for me the best application method by far has been to apply the KSG, wait 18 to 24 hours and buff off. I have never had a problem with residue when using this method. I have had some small issues when using the WOWO method. However, I realize that it's not always practical, especially for the pro's out here to leave a selant on overnight.
 
zzzzdoc said:
Which of the QD sprays are carnauba-based and which are (it it acrylic?) based?
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Of the QDs I use, I'd categorize this way:



Carnauba: Griot's SpeedShine, Pinnacle Crystal Mist, EF Clear Pearl (discontinued)



Non-carnauba: FK425, BlackFire's QD, 4* UGE



Works with anything: ClearKote QuikShine
 
Major bump! Ok so I'm having a problem with the KSG I applied after the car wash Friday night. I thought I buffed it all off, but there are still streaks of KSG on the paint. I use this all the time at home, and usually QD it off, but if it still doesn't come off, I just wait for the next car wash and it comes off right away. Unfortunately, not at home now and at school so I can't wash the car till Friday at the earliest. I don't want to QD it now because it may be too dusty for that. I don't want swirls. Anyways, the car is sitting in a covered parking structure, so will I have any problems with it coming off after the next car wash? I don't wipe the car dry, I blot it to minimize scratches. I really don't want to have to strip it because is was a major PIA finding time to apply it and good enough weather conditions for that.
 
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