Remove Klasse SG

Perm

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Hi,



If I wanted to remove my Klasse SG would I use Klasse AIO ?



What would be the process ?



I assume :



Wash

Dry

Klasse AIO



Thanks



Perm
 
To actually remove an acrylic polymer like SG, you need to use the correct stripper. One of the acrylic floor wax strippers would do the job. Not at all sure what they might do to painted surfaces.



AIO will *not* remove SG. No way, no how. AIO *includes* the acrylic polymers of SG in its formulation. AIO is designed to apply an acrylic polymer, just not as much as SG.



Dawn is another that will not remove an acrylic polymer finish, though many claim it will.



An abrasive polish will also mechanically remove SG through the grinding action.
 
foxtrapper said:
To actually remove an acrylic polymer like SG, you need to use the correct stripper. One of the acrylic floor wax strippers would do the job. Not at all sure what they might do to painted surfaces.



AIO will *not* remove SG. No way, no how. AIO *includes* the acrylic polymers of SG in its formulation. AIO is designed to apply an acrylic polymer, just not as much as SG.



Dawn is another that will not remove an acrylic polymer finish, though many claim it will.



An abrasive polish will also mechanically remove SG through the grinding action.



I must politely disagree with your second point. AIO will remove layers of SG - it's first and foremost a chemical cleaner. It's cleaning ability is the reason why it's not possible to truly layer AIO on top of itself. On the other hand, if you have 20 layers of SG on your car (random high # of layers chosen), then I can see your point...AIO might not remove all the SG layers (this is just my subjective thinking). However, AIO should easily make quick work of 3 SG layers. I did a short durability test of AIO this way...



MCA
 
MCA said:
I must politely disagree with your second point. AIO will remove layers of SG - it's first and foremost a chemical cleaner. It's cleaning ability is the reason why it's not possible to truly layer AIO on top of itself. On the other hand, if you have 20 layers of SG on your car (random high # of layers chosen), then I can see your point...AIO might not remove all the SG layers (this is just my subjective thinking). However, AIO should easily make quick work of 3 SG layers. I did a short durability test of AIO this way...



MCA





It's also my understanding that AIO should remove SG...



If I want to remove Klasse AIO or SG, I use a 50% mix of Isopropyl Alcohol and water in a squirt bottle with a MF towel.
 
I have doubts on AIO removing multiple layers of KSG. How can you tell its been removed for sure? Just wondering....Has anyone contacted Klasse and asked?
 
Cope said:
I have doubts on AIO removing multiple layers of KSG. How can you tell its been removed for sure? Just wondering....Has anyone contacted Klasse and asked?



I have an electric clearcoat detector microfiber cloth. It beeps when you hit the clearcoat.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I'm still trying to figure out why you would want to remove the SG in the first place.



Maybe you want to start all over for some reason? Or maybe you don't want to remove the KSG, just the LSP and preserve your KSG layers??? The question is does the AIO remove all KSG layers. And I'm very interested in a confirmed answer. But is that even possible?
 
If you look close enough there will be a lip somewhere so that you can peel of every layer of wax/sealant/... one at a time...



I read some silly answers here so I tought I contribute to them...:)
 
MCA said:
AIO will remove layers of SG - it's first and foremost a chemical cleaner.



If they called it "cleaner" or "prep" or "polish" or "Step one", I'd agree with you. But they call it "All-In-One", and I don't think that's an accident. The crowing is about the acrylic protection, how good it looks, and how long it lasts (I do disagree with the latter point myself). Very little is made of the cleaning properties from the vendor/manufacturer. And even if it were to somehow remove the layers of SG acrylic, it leaves it own acrylic finish. So you are not ever down to bare paint with AIO.



Much ado about the tremendous cleaning/polishing properties of AIO is made by end users. I believe many are mistaken, and not recognizing the effect of their pad and their muscle or the buffer motor.



Try this some time, take a bare pad and go polish a dull panel with nothing else. You will be quite surprised at how effectively that works.
 
Cope said:
The question is does the AIO remove all KSG layers. And I'm very interested in a confirmed answer. But is that even possible?



Here's how I'd experiment if I wanted to know:



Find some visible contamination on a panel. Apply numerous layers of KSG over the contamination being careful not to let the friction from the application media or the solvent-action of the KSG disturb said contamination. The goal is to get a few layers of SG over top of the conatmination. You should be able to tell it's happened- when you think you're finished, try running your finger over the contamination and make sure it's sealed under the SG.



If you're concerned about the mere friction from application media removing the SG, test that first and confirm that it'd take more pressure than you plan on applying. You should be able to rub the applicator/whatever across the sealed-ionn contamination without disturbing it.



Then use AIO; try to clean the SG off (and eventually clean off the contamination too, most likely). It'll clean it off or it won't. But yeah, the AIO will leave a (very) little protection of its own behind too.



You can test the SG-removal abilities of clay this way too ;)
 
Actually, come to think of it, I have a small spot on my car's rocker panel that I missed when I cleaned my car that would be perfect for this test. I've been building layers of KSG over the last few weeks and didn't notice it until my second or third coat. By that time I couldn't get it off with acrylic QD, so I left it alone. I now have 7 layers built up. I'll get the AIO on it and try sometime this weekend.
 
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