For those of you that have used RMG I have a few quick question. First on dark colors, specifically black, what are your thoughts on the product? Has anyone used RMG before Blackfire or FMJ and if so what were the results? Lastly what is the best method to apply RMG, by hand or PC? Thanks!
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Eliot Ness
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I recently used it on a red car. I found that it adds depth and slightly darkened the finish, adds a really nice look. Very easy to apply and remove, I used a PC and a blue Propel (light polish) pad to apply, and a MF to buff off by hand.
Others who have used it on black state the same qualities.... another nice product from ClearKote.
Others who have used it on black state the same qualities.... another nice product from ClearKote.
I haven't used it prior to topping with FMJ or Blackfire but since it is less oily than Vanilla Moose, those two should probably work very well over RMG.
Like John, I use a blue Propel pad. I set the speed on 5 and move the PC at a slow pace over the section I am working 2-3 times and it just kind of disappears into the paint. Once the pad is primed, it takes very little product to cover each section.
RMG on the bed of the truck, the door is untouched.
Like John, I use a blue Propel pad. I set the speed on 5 and move the PC at a slow pace over the section I am working 2-3 times and it just kind of disappears into the paint. Once the pad is primed, it takes very little product to cover each section.
RMG on the bed of the truck, the door is untouched.
I have used it on black by hand, when you work it is seems to disappears into the paint and leave not a lot to wipe off. Unlike VM which sits on the surface and comes off wet.
I have been using Clearkote Yellow Cream wax over the top to improve looks further and then sealing with EX or Wolfgang before topping.
VM, RMG and YCW
I have been using Clearkote Yellow Cream wax over the top to improve looks further and then sealing with EX or Wolfgang before topping.
VM, RMG and YCW
That was a great comparison shot Scottwax. A picture is worth a thousand words. I read some descriptions that RMG has sleight cleaning properties. For those that have used it, I was wondering if it is a mild paint cleanser as well as polish (strong enuff to remove old wax), or is it just a glaze with no cleansing properties?
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Which sealants have you guys had luck topping RMG with? If a glaze is used, does the durability/longevity of the sealant diminish?
Does a glaze fit into the AIO/SG process anywhere? Love their durability but not quite satisfied with swirl hiding abilities - I actually think they magnify swiring because they clean so well.
Thoughts/tips?
Does a glaze fit into the AIO/SG process anywhere? Love their durability but not quite satisfied with swirl hiding abilities - I actually think they magnify swiring because they clean so well.
Thoughts/tips?
Buckslayer after doing a search and looking on other forums people have been successful in using FMJ after RMG and it looks probable that BFII can be used after RMG.
My final question about RMG to those that have used it, is do you have to use VM before it? Will I be OK using RMG after FPII instead of VM or is it recommended that VM be used before RMG to really work?
My final question about RMG to those that have used it, is do you have to use VM before it? Will I be OK using RMG after FPII instead of VM or is it recommended that VM be used before RMG to really work?
i've used RMG with FMJ with success. i also tried 4* UPP over VM+RMG and it streaked. :nixweiss
as for VM before RMG, like JBM said, you can use VM to remove your current LSP. and in my short experience with RMG, using VM before it seems to make my paint a bit more wet looking. like when i did just RMG+FMJ, the wetness was kinda lacking. but when i did VM+RMG+FMJ, the wetness was very nice and the look i wanted. if you want a 'dripping with salad oil' look, try VM+RMG+Trade Secret Wax (Natty's probably would work too).
as for VM before RMG, like JBM said, you can use VM to remove your current LSP. and in my short experience with RMG, using VM before it seems to make my paint a bit more wet looking. like when i did just RMG+FMJ, the wetness was kinda lacking. but when i did VM+RMG+FMJ, the wetness was very nice and the look i wanted. if you want a 'dripping with salad oil' look, try VM+RMG+Trade Secret Wax (Natty's probably would work too).
hirosh said:
I guess the real question that I am getting at is VM seems to be like FPII, so what is the difference other than VM contains wax? I was planning on removing my LSP with the FPII, because I already have it. Will there by that much difference in using VM instead of FPII before RGM? If so I would love to know so I can plan on adding VM to my buy list.
Ohh I see. Thank you hirosh and stevet. I guess I am just not hearing what I wanted to. After purchasing IP & FPII I was hoping that I could use RMG before FMJ/Blackfire without having to purchase VM to get that incredible look I see in the pics that have been posted. I thoght that using RMG was a glaze more for dark colors while VM was more for removing minor swirls and oxidation. I thought if that was the case I would not need VM after IP & FPII. I guess I misunderstood then.
Awesome! Thank you for clarifying that stevet and Scottwax. While I understand all of this now, I have got to ask, between the two which is the best product for my application. I have used IP and FPII already and my cars are black. I thought that RMG was suppose to be the better of the two on black, but I would like to use the one that will not only work the best with black, but also work the best with FMJ/Blackfire. Any advice? Could some please clarify the main difference between VM and RMG so I could make the most informed decision?
I'd go with RMG since it contains less oils and no wax, so sealants should bond better. I've never noticed any issues with VM though.
On black paint, I'd go with RMG, regardless of any possible *better* bonding issues. RMG has a slightly richer look than VM that I find very appealing on black.
On black paint, I'd go with RMG, regardless of any possible *better* bonding issues. RMG has a slightly richer look than VM that I find very appealing on black.