Recommendation for fine scratches

mets2010

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I was wondering what you guys recommend for a few fine scratches, I don't think the whole car needs to be done just touch up the few spots, it is a black metallic.





thanks
 
Start with something mild and work up as needed. Need way more information to even get in the ballpark on a recommendation. What kind of car, what year, do you have a buffer, if so, what kind, what products do you have on hand, what are you willing to spend on equipment and products, etc.
 
2011 Mercedes, i have a porter cable 74xp. I am willing to spend whatever I need to get it done right. I have some Menzerma products and optimum. If there is something in particular I should get I am all ears. They can only be seen in direct light.



Scottwax said:
Start with something mild and work up as needed. Need way more information to even get in the ballpark on a recommendation. What kind of car, what year, do you have a buffer, if so, what kind, what products do you have on hand, what are you willing to spend on equipment and products, etc.
 
Mets2010 said:
2011 Mercedes, i have a porter cable 74xp. I am willing to spend whatever I need to get it done right. I have some Menzerma products and optimum. If there is something in particular I should get I am all ears. They can only be seen in direct light.



Which polishes do you own? I'd start by doing a test spot with your least abrasive polish and see if that removes the scratches, then go from there.
 
Would 85rd be too strong on a green pad?

Erik Mejia said:
Which polishes do you own? I'd start by doing a test spot with your least abrasive polish and see if that removes the scratches, then go from there.
 
Mets2010 said:
Would 85rd be too strong on a green pad?



Not sure if the green pad is the best match for the 85rd (and there are a scad of different "green pads" to further complicate this). The 85rd shouldn't be too strong in-and-of itself.



Oh, and Welcome to Autopia!
 
would you recommend doing it by hand if not with a green pad, i have a porter cable 74xp, , no swirls or anything like that just a bunch of little scratches



Accumulator said:
Not sure if the green pad is the best match for the 85rd (and there are a scad of different "green pads" to further complicate this). The 85rd shouldn't be too strong in-and-of itself.



Oh, and Welcome to Autopia!
 
This is a brand new Mercedes. If you're not too experience and "willing to spend whatever you need to get it done right" I would contact a pro and let him go to town. Mercedes paint - especially black - can be a challenge.



Get it 95% corrected then you can concentrate on keeping it that way via proper washing technique.
 
I also really doubt that it is just here and there. Put it inside the garage, turn the lights off and turn on your halogen or flash light. Inspect paint. Do use your pc. Ignore the bad advice. Do not try fixing it by hand. It is hard clear, will need work. If you mess it up, you can always hire a pro from here to fix it.
 
will the scratch marks come back once the sealant breaks down? the car is in the garage all the time especially in the winter and never goes out unless it is sunny, i have been reading about aquartz and opti-coat but don't know much about it. my concern is if I have it professionally fixed if down the road it is going to look worse because the sealant breaks down then if I just left the few scratches alone.



dschribs said:
This is a brand new Mercedes. If you're not too experience and "willing to spend whatever you need to get it done right" I would contact a pro and let him go to town. Mercedes paint - especially black - can be a challenge.



Get it 95% corrected then you can concentrate on keeping it that way via proper washing technique.
 
If the scratches are properly removed they won't come back but improper washing technique will put new scratches in the paint.
 
Mets2010 said:
will the scratch marks come back once the sealant breaks down? ... my concern is if I have it professionally fixed if down the road it is going to look worse because the sealant breaks down then if I just left the few scratches alone.



Sealants generally don't do much (if anything) in the way of concealing, so the reppearance shouldn't be an issue unless you use some kind of sealant-friendly glaze/concealing agent prior to applying the sealant.



And no, I wouldn't try doing it by hand, not for any reason. You can be just as gentle via PC as by hand with the right pads/products. Think of the PC/etc. as merely a "fast hand that doesn't get fatigued".



As noted, the big challenge will be avoiding new marring. Washing without marring the paint is very difficult.
 
Accumulator said:
Sealants generally don't do much (if anything) in the way of concealing, so the reppearance shouldn't be an issue unless you use some kind of sealant-friendly glaze/concealing agent prior to applying the sealant.



And no, I wouldn't try doing it by hand, not for any reason. You can be just as gentle via PC as by hand with the right pads/products. Think of the PC/etc. as merely a "fast hand that doesn't get fatigued".



As noted, the big challenge will be avoiding new marring. Washing without marring the paint is very difficult.



Caution, rant to follow...



/rantmode



In order for marring, swirls, scratches, etc. to occur some sort of mechanical action is required; some abrasive must be dragged along the surface of the paint. When is the only time paint is subjected to such mechanical action? THE WASH. And that's pretty much it, save for the odd key scratch, shrub branch, and the like. If there is no mechanical action against the paint it won't be scratched. It's as easy as that. So when do all those swirls, scratches, etc. actually happen? If you answered "THE WASH", you win! :)



Treat you car's clear coat the same way you'd treat your 1985 box set of "The Wall" CD's. Seriously. You wouldn't take a wash mitt to a dirty CD and expect it to come out clean and scratch free, would ya? No? Then you can't expect your clear coat to, either.



Unfortunately, the "Two Bucket Method" has been touted as the only way to wash your car without marring, and nothing could be further from the truth. :( If you are serious about maintaining a swirl free car, remember that the clear coat is just like your most prized CD's. Keeping that in mind, go read Accumulator's Non-marring Wash Method.



/rantmode
 
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