Quick Question ASAP: Mothers Claybar & washing

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Big Mike

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Thanks for stopping in. I'm actually in the middle of detailing my car right now, so that's why the urgent message :)



If I use Mothers Clay system with the Showtime Instant Detailer it comes with, and if I use soapy water to lube the clay (and spray the Showtime ID on the car, of course), do I need to re-wash, or can I just rinse and then move on to my Meg's #7 Glaze and then #20 Polymer Sealant?



Thanks for helping me out!
 
Firstly, you don't need to use both soap and QD...its either one of the other since both do the same thing - lubricate. You'll just be wasting a good QD.



Secondly, you won't need to wash. Go straight to applying #7. :xyxthumbs
 
Right. Showtime and soap/water will both lubricate the clay. You don't need to use both.



Ordinarily I would not say to wash the car after claying, but since you are not using a chemical cleaner or polish (which would remove any leftover clay residue), I would wash the car again before applying #7.
 
I apologize if I don't agree :), but #7 is *slightly* abrasive/cleaning.



It contains kaolin clay which cleans and fills the surface. As a result I wouldn't wash just to remove soap/QD residue. If the surface was untouched, then yes, I'd wash.
 
I've always thought of #7 with no abrasives/cleaners. In no way am I an expert on #7 though. I've only used it a few times, and I never used it for cleaning/polishing.
 
I don't mean to imply that #7 or similar glazes are like prewax cleaners or polishes...and I'm certainly no expert on #7.



But, I do know that kaolin clay, which is a pure form of hydrated aluminum silicate clay, has cleaning properties intrinsic to its microscopic structure. The minerals makeup is microscopically abrasive, and while it is generally viewed as non-abrasive, it *can* be used as an abrasive powder, because of this.



To me glazes will remove basic residue from paint but not remove serious contaminents that, say, a dedicated cleaner wax will remove.
 
Alfisti said:
I don't mean to imply that #7 or similar glazes are like prewax cleaners or polishes...and I'm certainly no expert on #7.



But, I do know that kaolin clay, which is a pure form of hydrated aluminum silicate clay, has cleaning properties intrinsic to its microscopic structure. The minerals makeup is microscopically abrasive, and while it is generally viewed as non-abrasive, it *can* be used as an abrasive powder, because of this.



To me glazes will remove basic residue from paint but not remove serious contaminents that, say, a dedicated cleaner wax will remove.
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You are right! A glaze is a polish with a lot of fillers in it. Megs #7 , I.H.G. and Mothers S.nG. will do a little cleaning, although very little. If after claying the paint looks good you can go to a glaze.
 
Big Mike PT- if the soap solution makes the clay dissolve, switch to the Mother's QD.



With the soap approach, just give the panel a quick rewash/rinse after the claying, it only takes a few seconds. With the QD, just wipe it off, no need to rewash.



Hope we're not drivng Big Mike nuts with our detailed talk about #7 ;)



On the #7, I've used it forever, starting with many years on ss back in the day. Yeah, it contains "abrasive" clay, but it's *functionally* non-abrasive; the clay is too fine to abrade automotive paint (even very soft lacquer). As stated, it and similar preoducts do do a little light cleaning due to the oils/solvents but they're certainly not in the "paint cleaner" category.
 
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